This is beyond reasonablilty. Of course
not every single lens made and SOLD - these
werent freebies - is no longer in existance
or in perfect working order. Nobody claimed
that but as I stated in my previous post
these were extremely well made lenses and
are generally both durable and reliable even
to this day. No one knows the exact number
but I would bet (based on my long experience
with them) that the vast majority
of them are still fully serviceable INCLUDING
the aperture cams essential to open aperture
metering and AE that Pentax isnt currently
supporting....Quality lenses tend to last for
decades..thats why its important for any
company to support them if nothing incompatible
is needed or developed and nothing incompatible
has been developed, they are still compatiable
with the latest mount, just not supported for
features as designed.

The lack of reason is in your last post, there
is no imcompatability issue with KM lenses
and Program AE and AF. they didn’t have to
remove KM support to maintain Program AE
and AF. If they did then it might make sense
but they didn’t. And BTW, I think the statement
is quite illogical because on one hand your saying
program AE is important for most users but
then you ALSO say the removal of ALL AE from
KM lenses without the need to do so is right
thing to do. YOU CANT ARGUE AE is and isnt important at the
same time. this is getting old because you made
the same self-incriminating argument before
a while back and never learned from it when
I pointed out its gross contradiction then. I told
you that you would be a redundant arguer didn’t
I?
JCO 

-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:27 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Camera engineering (This is signifigant)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: Camera engineering (This is signifigant)


> OPEN MOUTH- INSERT FOOT.
> read my posts that correctly
> speculated why I thought there
> were more K/M lenses than all
> other series combined and then
> read PALs' later posts which
> confirmed it. Its most likely
> that most or at least half
> of all pentax k mount lenses in existance
> are not supported for open aperture
> metering and AE on these DSLRS based on the
> numbers PAL posted...

I read Pål's numbers after that reply.
The manufacturing numbers do not take into account equipment that is no 
longer in service for a variety of reasons, such as equipment 
loss/destruction, things that happen OVER TIME.
Anyway, the manufacturing numbers are, at best, a straw man, and at worst 
just not valid at all in this curcumstance.
The most important factor is lens usability for THE MAJORITY of users. For
most users, this means programmed exposure automation and autofocus, 
neither of which are supported, or supportable, by K/M lenses.

William Robb 



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