I tend to think that Pentax will produce only DA lenses. But I also  
still feel that the size difference between FDA and DA at longer focal  
lengths could be minimal.
Paul
On Sep 3, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote:

> Adam, Paul,
>
> There is evidence that flies right in the face of your statements.
> Take 600mm f/5.6, for example (links below). This is a convenient
> comparison because it exists in both 645 and K mount A-series. The
> only dimension being smaller for the 645 is length. I haven't done the
> maths, but it would not surprise me if that difference comes from the
> different register distances.
>
> Weight leaps up a whopping 68% from K to 645. The front element
> diameter is also larger.
>
>
> The K-mount:
> Lenght: 386 mm
> diameter: 133 mm
> Weight: 3280 g
>
> The 645:
> Length: 353 mm
> Diameter: 156 mm
> Weight: 4800 g
>
>
> Whatever logic there is to DA lenses having to be the same size as DFA
> certainly isn't supported by this line of argument.
>
> Thinking about it, the DA/DFA may be a different ballgame since they
> apply to the same bayonet and register distance, but I don't see why
> it should be. I'd love to be enlightened though.
>
> Links:
> Boz' K-mount page:
> http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/extreme-tele/A600f5.6.html
>
> or http://tinyurl.com/h9gju
>
> and B&H:
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? 
> O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=40765&is=USA&addedTroughType=categoryNav 
> igation
>
> or http://tinyurl.com/kckmh
>
> Jostein
>
>
> On 9/2/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Shorter optics are bulkier in MF, longer optics are not, and the
>> deciding point is usually around 200-300mm.  The size exception is  
>> where
>> they neck down to meet the mount (as 35mm mounts are notably smaller).
>> In fact the 35mm version should be slightly longer in most cases (to
>> cover the difference in Register).
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> Jostein Øksne wrote:
>>> Point about front element taken, but the front element is not THE
>>> single factor in deciding the weight of a lens.
>>> I have five lenses for the 645 system, and all of them are heavier,
>>> and bulkier, than their K counterparts.
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>> On 9/2/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/09/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then tell me, guys,
>>>>> Why are the medium format optics so much larger for corresponding
>>>>> focal lengths and max apertures?
>>>>
>>>> The long lenses aren't, I had a 400/4 for my 67, it didn't taper  
>>>> much
>>>> as the back end used the external bayonet but the front end was no
>>>> bigger than a 400/4 in any format.
>>>>
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