> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:28 PM, steve harley <p...@paper-ape.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2015-06-11 9:53 , Eric Weir wrote:
>> This suggests another question about Flickr as backup, though I’m leaning 
>> away from using it as such: Can you upload RAW/DNG files to Flickr?
> 
> i didn't try it, but no, not according to a couple of recent references i 
> found; but any cloud service that handles RAW files is pretty much going to 
> guess at your rendering intent — in other words, you'll have RAW in the 
> cloud, but it may not look good
> 
>> If not it would really be worthless as backup.
> 
> it depends what you mean by backup; it sounds like you think of backup as 
> true copies of your work, in which case i think cloud backup solutions in 
> general aren't up to the job unless you create very few images (or perhaps 
> you are willing to spend for lots of cloud storage and you have something 
> like Google Fiber to speed your uploads)
> 
> for the many terabytes that a lot of serious photographers create, using 
> physical storage media (hard drives) and rotating some to "off-site" 
> locations is faster and more cost effective; what can put you off this path 
> is that it takes thought, whereas a lot of cloud services seem to take care 
> of everything; but believe me, i have been called in to consult with people 
> who have dragged their hard drive icon into their Dropbox folder, thinking it 
> would "take care of it"; days later they are wondering why their computer is 
> slow, why only some of their files are on their other devices, and what the 
> funny messages are about

Many of the comments here, as well as some of the sources referenced, seem to 
be talking about “publishication” rather than “backup.” I use Flickr to share 
select images, usually edited, with others. To my tastes it works fine for this 
purpose. I don’t need anything else for it.

What I’m looking for is a way to duplicate or possibly enhance my current back 
up system, which is two 1 TB firewire external drives managed with Time Machine 
and Carbon Copy Cloner. Regarding photography what I want basically is ability 
to create a copy of my photo directory as is and then make incremental backups 
to it as additions or changes are made to the original. I don’t want to show 
anyone my unedited DNG files. 

Earlier this year I had planned to create a new external drive-based system 
with much larger capacity drives accessible by wi-fi. I had identified the 
drives and a router and had talked with a tech-consultant friend about helping 
me set it up. 

Finances led me to hold up on proceeding with this idea. I may be ready to go 
ahead with it. Or, as a temporary backstop to my current system, I may give one 
of the cloud-based systems a try, likely Dropbox or CrashPlan.

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Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon
you learn something no one has learned before." 

- Richard Feynman


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