Abd ul-Rahman,
        Let's just let it die! I understood your description just fine, what do 
you not understand about your method importing only dumb Gerber primitives 
without the related intelligence that was originally in the design?

        You are operating on a set of assumptions that don't match the 
case/issue(s) and I don't have the time to detail them all out for you. I can 
flip the design "for assembly documentation" and manipulate (note I don't 
detail the manipulation required) it as fast or faster than you can do it in 
Gerber without the problem of re-importing Gerber that 'may' not import into 
Protel properly.

        Nobody has said anything about flipping the whole board layer 
structure, so that is just one example of you operating on unrelated 
assumptions. Secondly, whoever mentioned flipping text? Not I. Layer pairing? 
Not mentioned other than by you.

        The only relevant portion of anything that I mentioned was the bounding 
extents change when rotating/flipping components with hidden designators or 
comments. If you have detail related to that or how to avoid it then let's 
discuss it, in the meantime this is going wildly off track without full 
understanding of our processes and methods.

Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
#14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374



-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:40 PM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Something off the board


Yes, except that it is not true that the gerber import solution 
offers "no more efficiency," and I suspect also that Mr. Velander did 
not understand the description. First, flipping the board, when text 
is involved, involves some complications, which is precisely why this 
whole topic came up. If we had a "Flip entire design" command, this 
could be easier, to be sure. However, there are some ... issues ... 
to be resolved, in particular layer pairing issues. I would not be 
happy with a Flip command applied to the whole board unless it really 
did produce an exactly equivalent PCB that, all by itself, could be 
fabricated and be identical to the original board.


 
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