At 12:06 PM 5/26/2006, Brad Velander wrote:
>         Yes all of the information can be manipulated and derived 
> through other means but in the end you still have to flip/rotate at 
> least the Gerber data so it offers no more efficiency than rotating 
> and flipping the original design for post fabrication 
> documentation. None except that the Gerber is dumb so you then have 
> to rely on working with two files (the flipped/rotated Gerber and 
> the original PCB file) for your full production data rather than 
> cleanly all encompassed within one file.

Yes, except that it is not true that the gerber import solution 
offers "no more efficiency," and I suspect also that Mr. Velander did 
not understand the description. First, flipping the board, when text 
is involved, involves some complications, which is precisely why this 
whole topic came up. If we had a "Flip entire design" command, this 
could be easier, to be sure. However, there are some ... issues ... 
to be resolved, in particular layer pairing issues. I would not be 
happy with a Flip command applied to the whole board unless it really 
did produce an exactly equivalent PCB that, all by itself, could be 
fabricated and be identical to the original board.

But, yes, you can flip a board in various ways, if you don't care 
about such details as layer sequence, the relationship of mech layers 
to copper layers, etc. If you are only producing this flipped PCB for 
the purpose of generating a single drawing, it is a reasonable 
solution, though I still think it quite possibly takes more labor.

Now, as to the proposed process with Gerber. The end result is, 
contrary to what was implied by Mr. Velander, a single board file 
with both top and bottom assembly drawings being a part of it. 
Usually, I placed the bottom assembly drawing adjacent to the top 
assembly, it is not co-existent; the result is a single assembly 
drawing showing both top and bottom, instead of separate drawings for 
each. If separate drawings are desired, the PDF solution described by 
Mr. Saputelli seems much simpler, or you provide gerber plots, the 
same, for each assembly drawing.





 
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