At 06:17 PM 5/27/2006, Laurie Biddulph wrote: >I used `Select All Outside' but it would not `select' those items >and there was no option to `delete'.
Right. They were not selected. It is Select All that is reliable, for "outside" can have some problems. Remember, in this thread, by another, it was recommended to Select All, then Deselect *Inside*. >I had to zoom out a bit, `select all' and then start moving the selection. The zoom out part wasn't necessary. Select All would still Select All. However, you might not have been able to see the selection extents, what you call the "selection window." > As soon as Ii did this the `selection window' went VERY large and, > after zooming out a bit more, I was able to bring the bottom left > corner in to view on the screen. From that point on it was a formality. Yes. The selection window, if you noticed, probably included your pcb. Something was selected there as well as the primitives you were trying to find. This is why Select All Outside did not work. At least this is a reasonable theory... If those primitives were part of a footprint, a footprint is only Outside a space if all the primitives are outside that space. One exception, it is neither Inside or Outside (i.e., Select Outside won't select it and Select Inside, I think, will also not select it -- I have a memory of there being some option here but I'm not going to check right now.) So if you Select All, then Deselect Inside, you will have only the problem objects selected. Including any portions of them which are inside your PCB area. You do not want, necessarily, to delete them until you know what they are. And if you do delete them, make sure you synchronize with your schematic again. If you delete a component, Protel will not warn you, and you can think your board is complete. (*Always* resynchronize before considering a design complete. Has AD2006 automated this?) >As far as I can tell Protel 2004/AD/DXP (whatever) does not seem to >like objects on mechanical layers that are outside the window (or >may be in negative space). All my attempts where with the board at a >reasonable zoom level and I thought I would have been able to see >the offending items. It was only after that big zoom out (my pcb >area on my screen was less than a 1" across) that the objects became `relevant' The workspace is 100 inches. The view window is irrelevant, though it might mean that some objects are invisible (and they can be invisible for other reasons as well). In addition, objects can exist outside the workspace, both in negative space and positive space. Sometimes people think this is a bug, but it is actually a feature, albeit one missing certain facilities to make it easy to detect and deal with such things. ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
