Peirce's "there were" means 'existent'. In the past, here, I've spoken
of the "potential interpretant". In the hypothetical science that
mathematics is, a pencil-lead streak forming a (rough but acceptable)
circle signifies the hypothetical object of a perfect circle. In these
cases the signs are still only signs within their triad; it's just that
the object or interpretant doesn't need to be existent.
Matt
On 12/29/15 3:14 PM, Matt Faunce wrote:
On 12/29/15 2:56 PM, Sungchul Ji wrote:
Jon A, List,
Here is one quotation of Pierce cited in Charles Peirce's Guess at
the Riddle (K. Sheriff, Indiana University Press, Bloomington, 1994):
"A sinsign may be index or icon. As index it is 'a sign which would,
at once, (122915-1)
lose the chracter wich makes it a sign if its object were removed,
but would
not lose that character if there were no interpretant."
That's in CP 2.304
"A sign is either an icon, an index, or a symbol. An icon is a
sign which would possess the character which renders it
significant, even though its object had no existence; such as a
lead-pencil streak as representing a geometrical line. An index is
a sign which would, at once, lose the character which makes it a
sign if its object were removed, but would not lose that character
if there were no interpretant. Such, for instance, is a piece of
mould with a bullet-hole in it as sign of a shot; for without the
shot there would have been no hole; but there is a hole there,
whether anybody has the sense to attribute it to a shot or not. A
symbol is a sign which would lose the character which renders it a
sign if there were no interpretant. Such is any utterance of
speech which signifies what it does only by virtue of its being
understood to have that signification."
calvert Frome calvert Frome
So it seems to me that (122915-1) establishes the concept of a
*dyadic sign*.
Therefore,
"Not all signs are triadic." (122915-2)
as some Peirceans on this list seem to believe.
All the best.
Sung
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