Jerry,

That is certainly the main issue that needs to be resolved in full. The 
phenomena to be explained have to be identified by the abductive inference. 
This would be the index part of the proposition.  The qualitative part has to 
be able to allow this identification. Together they must permit an 
interpretation that we have a way to use in pactice. I would say that it is the 
effectiveness of the last that determines how good the abduction is. I suspect 
that the answer involves considering a number of factors.

For example, Newtonian space and time are one way to explain the bucket thought 
experiment. But even in Newton's own time it was observed  (e.g.  by Leibniz) 
that the explanation couldn't be tested (it failed the pragmatic maxim). Mach 
made the problem even more clear.  It was not a good explanation on those 
grounds,  though it was good enough for Newton and for most physicists up to 
Einstein.

John



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-------- Original message --------
From: Jerry LR Chandler <[email protected]>
Date: 2016/03/10 00:07 (GMT+02:00)
To: Peirce List <[email protected]>
Cc: Clark Goble <[email protected]>, John Collier <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Abduction, Deduction, Induction : Analogy, Inquiry

John, Clark,  List:


On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:59 AM, John Collier 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

List,

Another point that is often overlooked in discussions of inference to the best 
explanation, which I agree is not the same as abduction, though I think 
abduction is more restrictive than just inference to any hypothesis from which 
the evidence might be inferred, is that the best explanation need not be a good 
explanation, so we need more than inference to the best explanation to carry 
out inquiry responsibly.

The simple question arises:
If an abductive step is taken by the inquirer, then what?

For example, say that a sinsign and its legisigns and qualisigns provide the 
informative extension to generate an index, how does one take this abductive 
object and move through the inferential steps needed to generate a valid 
argument?

Or, from a different logical perspective, what information is needed to extend 
(in the Aristotelian sense of intensional logic) the index to the 
(telelogical?) goal of the inquirer?

Cheers

Jerry








From: Clark Goble [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 04 March 2016 12:35 AM
To: Peirce List
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Abduction, Deduction, Induction : Analogy, Inquiry


On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Jon Awbrey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Let me just say again that abduction is not "inference to the best explanation".
That gloss derives from a later attempt to rationalize Peirce's idea and it has
led to a whole literature of misconception.  Abduction is more like "inference
to any explanation" - or maybe adapting Kant's phrase, "conceiving a concept
that reduces a manifold to a unity".  The most difficult part of its labor
is delivering a term, very often new or unnoticed, that can serve as
a middle term in grasping the structure of an object domain.

I fully agree and many of his quotations make clear it's not inference to the 
best explanation. However we should admit that in some places he sure seems to 
get close to that idea. Even if it doesn't appear to be workable. I'd argue 
that even when he appears to be talking about best explanation he's much more 
after the fact our guesses are so often quite good. (Although I'd have to go 
through all the quotes to be sure that's fair to the texts)



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