I certainly agree. Things are neither mechanical or linear.

How complex things are in themselves will vary. In terms of daily
existence, a practical outcome might not in itself be complex. In terms of
the way things proliferate without end, of course, that complexity is
inevitable. Life!

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On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote:

> Stephen, list
>
> I would instead say that all 'things that emerge' are aspects of Mind and
> thus, are Signs. That is, I don't think that the Mind is a 'box'..and that
> things 'come up in the mind'. Mind emerges as matter. We not only think in
> Signs but we ARE Signs. A bacterium is a Sign, an insect is a Sign, a word
> is a Sign.
>
>  The most basic component nature of this Sign,  as I see it,  of this
> Mind-as-Matter, if we break it down, is the dynamic triad - and I emphasize
> both its complexity and its dynamism. The basic Set is a complex system,
> actually, a CAS, a complex adaptive system. It's made up of the IO-R-II -
> which forms the 'host' Mind-as-Matter, so to speak. But it doesn't do so
> without being connected - all the time - to its external environment, or
> DOs. Multiple DOs.
>
> So, a simple CAS or Sign, is a bacterium, which is an active mass, of
> Mind-as-Matter, in constant networked interaction with external
> stimuli/information [breadth][DOs] which it transforms, not translates, but
> transforms within its organizational nature [depth] , to more
> Mind-as-Matter [DIs].
>
> This pragmatic process of transformation is achieved by that basic
> complex set: [IO-R-II] - where input data/information, the IO, is
> transformed by the mediative actions of the Representamen, into a first
> internal interpretation, the II. This will in the majority of cases become
> part of another existential Mind-as-Matter, the DI....which is another
> triadic basic set: [IO-R-II]….
>
> Not only does this semiosic process [IO-R-II] gather data from multiple
> sources [DOs] but - the fact that it does so within three categorical modes
> of 1ns, 2ns, 3ns, enables a richness of data input and processing.
>
> This is obviously not a linear process but a dynamic or transformative one
> - and to me, Peircean semiosis is transformative; its constant
> modal interactions of both breadth and depth enables change as well as
> stability.
>
> That is - to break down the semiosic process - of the basic set of three,
> the triad, plus the other three parts of the interaction  - ie. the
> DO-[IO-R-II]-DI-FI into linear parts that ignores the transformative
> complex actions that take place - misses the Peircean semiosic reality.
>
> This is not a mechanical linear process; it's complex - which means -
> that the parts in the full set don't just move data along from site to
> site; they transform it because they hold the categorical abilities in them
> - to do so. The Representamen, as mediation, holds that power - and to
> ignore this powerful mediative action, to me, ignores the reality of
> Peircean semiosis.
>
> Edwina
>
>
>
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