Tom, List: I agree that the phaneron includes whatever is or could be present to the mind "in any way whatsoever." Here is something that Peirce says about predicates (and subjects).
CSP: Experience is first forced upon us in the form of a flow of images. Thereupon thought makes certain assertions. It professes to pick the image into pieces and to detect in it certain characters. This is not literally true. The image has no parts, least of all predicates. Thus predication involves precisive abstraction [elsewhere *precission*]. Precisive abstraction creates predicates. Subjectal [elsewhere *hypostatic*] abstraction creates subjects. Both predicates and subjects are creations of thought. (NEM 3:917, 1904) The question that sometimes comes up is whether we are still practicing phaneroscopy once we start *interpreting *the phaneron by predicating attributes of it. The very first word of this excerpt is *experience*, the aspect of the phaneron that is "forced upon us" as "a flow of images," which we convert into predicates and subjects as "creations of thought," implying semiosis throughout. On the other hand, "predication involves precisive abstraction," and as we will be discussing later in the slow read of De Tienne's slides, prescission is an indispensable tool of phaneroscopy. Perhaps you could elaborate on the two questions that you posed, hopefully prompting some further reflection and discussion. Thanks, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:24 AM Thomas Gollier <tgoll...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jon, List, > > From the quotes you provide, and how I remember understanding it, the > *phaneron *seems to be anything that is > "in any way whatsoever." But that would mean that it's impossible to > attribute any particular predicate to it without > falling short of what it is? Seems a lot like Parmenides' notion of being > at this point? > > Tom > >>
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