Tom - exactly, exactly. [I've added this reply to the Peirce list since I think your diagrams/models are excellent examples of the Peircean categories and the Peircean relations in diagrams].
1] Your 'knowledge graphs: ' Internationally, all individuals of all ages can see and understand the visualization of knowledge in a graph. The format is simple; nodes are connected by lines where each is labelled with a common name." And " knowledge graphs are derived from the provable reality in each of the Peircean Categories of Possibility, Actuality, and Necessity. In each category and as a whole, knowledge graphs expose the logical truth." The point is, graphs show Relations - not words or single object units - but the relations these 'objects' can or do have. 2] And - I noticed something else: You wrote about 'knowledge domain layers' that: "an ontology document [can] only import another ontology document from the same layer or from a lower level layer". This is exactly the same ontological format that is being set up and discussed here - with mathematics being a 'lower level layer' than the phaneron'. So - your functional use of the Peircean framework - in 'model driven architecture - shows us that Peirce provided a logical analysis of reality. Many thanks for the link. Edwina On Sun 25/07/21 10:41 AM , Tom Tinsley ttins...@tampabay.rr.com sent: Edwina,Here are some dynamic diagrams in each Peircean category : https://otterserver.com/logically-consistent-knowledge-graphs/peircean-categories-visualization/Tom Tinsley Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Edwina Taborsky Date: 7/25/21 8:55 AM (GMT-05:00) To: tabor...@primus.ca, peirce-l@list.iupui.edu, "John F. Sowa" Cc: ontolog-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Thinking in diagrams vs thinking in words BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }John, list I wonder if diagrammatic thinking is focused more on relations than specific and separate individual units, i.e., verbs and subjects/objects. That is, I long ago noticed that some indigenous languages which are oral rather than literate- and I'd include ancient Chinese and Latin - have the verb at the end of the sentence. So, the format is Subject/Object/Verb. Our modern format - and that includes modern Chinese, has put the verb in between the Subject and Object. So, the meaning becomes X does something to Y...and in a way, X is not affected by the action. To me, this old oral format means that the subject and object are together co-involved within the actions of the verb. I think this fits in with Peirce's triadic format where the Representamen/Sign mediates between the Object and Interpretant. And where the Interpretant does affect the original Object. So, the format here is X/Y are involved in an action. ..and both are affected by this action. So- I'm wondering if diagrams are also easier to understand because they clarify the relations that are going on. Edwina On Sat 24/07/21 6:06 PM , "John F. Sowa" s...@bestweb.net sent: Edwina, Yes. That is a major advantage of diagrams: ET> I agree that diagrams are more fundamental than words, since their attributes are less open to multiple interpretations. That includes both the written and spoken word, with the latter overlaid with meanings provided by tone and rhythm and the former open to many misinterpretations because of the lack of both. [As we find in email and text messages]. The phaneron, as initially experienced, is independent of any bias. But every step of interpreting the experience adds biases from the individual's conscious knowledge, unconscious habits, cultural traditions, and linguistic constraints of vocabulary, syntax, and semantics. Those biases may be good, bad, or neutral. As an example, the subjects for a psycholinguistic experiment were asked to sort photographs into similar groups, according to any grouping they considered relevant. Some of the subjects happened to be native speakers of Yoruba, which has a color classification that is very different from English and other European languages. After the subjects did their sorting, the experimenter said "Think in Yoruba." The subjects laughed and immediately resorted the photographs in a completely different grouping. When they switched from thinking in English to thinking in Yoruba, they completely reorganized their interpretations. And by the way, I also cc'd a note to Peirce-L, which I had sent to Ontolog Forum with the title "Modal Logic is an Immense Swamp". That note addresses issues about logic for which Peirce's writings are still at the forefront of research today. Before reading that note, I recommend the slides I cited in it: http://jfsowa.com/talks/eswc.pdf [1] 1. For a brief overview of existential graphs, skip to slides 14 to 21 of escw.pdf. 2. For issues about mapping English (and other languages) to EGs, see slides 21 to 35. 3. For the differences between thinking in diagrams and thinking in words, see slides 36 to 52. To complete the loop, I'm also cc'ing this note to Ontolog Forum. John Links: ------ [1] http://jfsowa.com/talks/eswc.pdf
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