Von: "Edwina Taborsky" <tabor...@primus.ca>
An: "Peirce-L" <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>
Cc: "Edwina Taborsky" <edwina.tabor...@gmail.com>
Betreff: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The Proper Way in Logic (was Peirce's Ongoing Semiotic Project)
On Feb 11, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> wrote:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Mike:I do not know what you mean by "penultimate" in this context. As I have said on the List many times before, as well as in my published work, my understanding of synechism as applied in metaphysics is that the entire universe is an inexhaustible continuum (3ns) of indefinite possibilities (1ns), some of which are actualized (2ns). Again, discrete things and their dyadic reactions, as well as monadic qualities and their inherence in discrete things, are degenerate outcomes of continuous and triadic semiosis.Regards,JonOn Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 5:15 PM Mike Bergman <m...@mkbergman.com> wrote:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Hi Jon,
To quibble, I see synechism and its great definer of continuity as the guiding principle of Thirdness (as I think Peirce did, too). It can't be elevated to the penultimate, because our operative world also requires the discrete and discontinuous. (Enter 2nd law of thermodynamics stage left.)
Best, Mike
On 2/11/2024 5:03 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Mike:I am glad that we agree on that point. I also agree that it is a mistake to treat semiosis as the most fundamental aspect of Peirce's philosophy, and that his three universal categories--firmly grounded in both the hypothetical science of mathematics and the primal positive science of phaneroscopy--are even more central, especially as an organizing principle.However, Peirce's preference to call his overall system of thought synechism suggests that he regarded "continuity as an idea of prime importance in philosophy" (CP 6.103, EP 1:313, 1892)--especially since he also stated, "I carry the doctrine so far as to maintain that continuity governs the whole domain of experience in every element of it" (CP 7.566, EP 2:1, 1893). This has implications for semiosis as I have already outlined, as well as the categories--1ns is prescinded from 2ns and 3ns, and 2ns is prescinded from 3ns; but 2ns cannot be built up from 1ns, and 3ns cannot be built up from 1ns and 2ns.Regards,Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USAStructural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran ChristianOn Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 3:13 PM Mike Bergman <m...@mkbergman.com> wrote:Hi Jon,
Here is a point with which I have vehement agreement with you (dare I say I suspect Edwina does as well):
What I can say is that I obviously disagree with anyone who confines semiosis to the biological realm, since I maintain with Peirce that the entire universe is "a vast representamen" that is "perfused with signs, if it is not composed exclusively of signs."Further keys to this assertion are found in Peirce's writings on evolution, emergence, cosmogony, and his anticipation of the quantum vs the classical. These are a focus of my current studies.One of the bones I have to pick with many scholars of semiosis is their too literal restriction to human signs and perhaps even elevating semiosis as a Peircean thesis first among others. I have found the universal categories to be a more robust grounding to generalize to the entirety of Nature and its manifestations.
Best, Mike
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