On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What good does this do if jobs are evaporating at the current rate?

Wasn't 1936--when unemployment was certainly higher--one of the high
marks of the union movement?  Isn't it why FDR was eventually forced
to make concessions?  At that point, businesses were ready to work
directly w/ unions because they were causing such a ruckus. Cf. Lynd's
piece in this edition of Radical America:

http://dl.lib.brown.edu/repository2/repoman.php?verb=render&id=1124977683411944

I guess we could argue that we are in a dramatically different job
situation than then--globalization, as the Mike Davis piece in Tom
Dispatch a few weeks ago pointed out, "no shuttered factories to bring
back online, etc.--but I think this would also be to bend to the
Chamber of Commerce, et. al. pace:

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2008/11/03/daily90.html

<OPEN QUOTE>
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce urged President-elect Barack Obama and
Congress to refrain from pushing legislation to make organizing unions
easier until the economy recovers.[....] The Employee Free Choice Act,
however, would have "serious implications" for job creation and
economic stability, Donohue said. Therefore, Congress should put off
consideration of this bill until the economy improves, he said. [....]
The bill not only would hurt businesses, it would spoil the the
post-election spirit of cooperation that now exists between the
president-elect and business groups, he said. [. . . .] Donohue thinks
Obama also will realize that capping greenhouse gas emissions would
not be smart when the economy is in a recession. These caps would
impose a big new tax on the economy and "may sink it further," he
said.
<CLOSE QUOTE>

There have been similar claims that have been reiterated--the business
community is already on the offensive. I have my google alert set for
the EFCA and yeasterday there were three other articles on business
leaders claiming this would be "bad for the economy."

Home Depot opposes union organizing bill - CEO
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0632246720081106

Employee free-choice bill worries businesses
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/06/BULL13VKR7.DTL

Chamber Vows to Fight Free Choice Act
http://www.rollcall.com/news/29942-1.html

There were some blogs stating support, but no major media: there is
arguably never a good time for union activity from the perspective of
capital, but it seems notable that we are currently in an economic
climate similar to the one at that moment.

The exception, of course, is that we now have a firmer understanding
of the effects of economics on the climate.  There is no need for a
Smoot Hartley (which, incidentally, was in place during that period of
heightened Union activity) because obviously trade can be quite good.
But there are a lot of irrational trades that are done merely for
labor arbitrage which are only economically rational because the true
cost of international shipping isn't calculated.  Thus it is telling
that the Chamber of Commerce sees the EFCA and carbon caps in the same
light: these are the two biggest threats to continuing business as
usual.  i.e.

http://www.oceana.org/climate/solutions/oceana/no-more-free-ride/

<OQ>
    *  Only five countries in the world release more carbon dioxide
than the global fleet of marine vessels.
    * This fleet releases 1.12 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide
each year, an amount equivalent to emissions from over 205 million
cars, or more cars than were registered in the U.S. in 2006 (135
million).
    * A single container ship emits more global warming pollution than
2,000 diesel trucks.
    * By 2020, these emissions could double 2002 levels, and they
could be triple those levels by 2030.
    * Ships are also major emitters of nitrogen oxides – contributing
nearly 30% of the world's releases. This amount too is expected to
triple by 2030.
    * Another pollutant released by ships, black carbon, or soot, can
warm the air as well as cause snow and ice to melt. Black carbon may
be responsible for as much as 25% of observed global warming.
<CQ>

If both of these issues were tackled at the same time, on an
international scale, the benefits for local workers in the US would be
quite real; as would the benefits to other local workers around the
world.  Tax the hell out of shipping (though not sure who gets those
funds or how they should be managed) and give employees more say in
the production process.  Focus export oriented investment in fields
that really are advantageous; otherwise, try to make some shit locally
if it is senseless (and expensive) to ship components from thousands
of miles to simply assemble it at lower cost somewhere else and ship
it back.  Invest in alternative energy tech and production processes;
make these technologies open source and assist in helping other
countries creating inputs, etc.  I don't know how we can save the US
economy without reinforcing the international division of labor as it
stands, but maybe it is worth a shot to try to re-imagine both.  It
would seem like dangers to climate and the possible collapse of US
consumption would be enough to make every country in the supply chain
anxious enough to try some new strategies.

Finally, most of the jobs being added in the US are in the service
sector, and if I understand it correctly, most of the union growth is
in service unions.  I don't see these as being indicators that there
couldn't be a way to have these trends continue.  Likewise, since
healthcare and education would seem to be the key industries we need
to improve, these sectors seem set for a rapid expansion, if only to
improve the provision of these services.  I guess, in general, these
are less profitable than manufacturing (though maybe I'm just
believing too much of the Daniel Bell I just read) but unions are only
partially about profit sharing: also about control over job
conditions.

I'm sure a lot of what I've just said is totally speculative, some of
it wrong, but I think enough of it is right to make fighting for
something like EFCA--along with greater democratic control over the
unions themselves--worthwhile and even economically wise.  As for...

> Furthermore, some of the greatest advances in trade union organizing in the
> 20th century took place before the Wagner Act.

This is true.  Maybe I don't understand the changes that have taken
place since then, but aren't we (especially we in the Southwest and
sunbelt states) in a similar situation to that before collective
bargaining was recognized--and with virtually none of the militancy
you refer to.  In "right to work" states Wagner is effectively moot;
EFCA seems a necessary but insufficient step in trying to renew the
militancy itself.  It does none of the things that Wagner did, so far
as I can tell, except for making the union itself more able to
represent more of the workers.

> If the trade unions are to
> have any future at all, it will only be realized by breaking with a
> political party that is run by corporate lawyers and funded by Goldman-Sachs
> et al.

This has always been the case--or at least there have always been
people arguing it--and one of the claims made by that Radical American
article above is that the real downfall of the "united front" of
militant labor organizing was when it aligned with the Dems as opposed
to following through with starting its own parties.  But in this case
I don't see the dichotomy as relevant: the president elect has said
he'd sign the legislation if it cam on his desk; there might be enough
support in the legislature to pass it; I don't see why working with a
particular party is necessarily bad for the legislation.  Unless
you're anticipating that, in their hands, it will likely get so
watered down with amendments that any symbolic victory will be
undermined by the actual loopholes it includes.  But you appear to be
saying that, the legislation, even if it is sound, even if it gets
passed as is, shouldn't be left to Dems because they are swine.  Or,
implicitly, the Republicans, because they are bigger swine.  So who
should pass it?  In principle I see what you're saying and it has a
long tradition of being true: in general, Dems do little for labor but
take their campaign funds.  But since we're talking about labor
legislation that Dems have a chance of passing, what difference does
it make that they are Dems?

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