Thank you Gretchen!!  My thoughts entirely...
Tom Parker

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From: Anderson, Gretchen <anders...@carnegiemnh.org>
To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2020 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: [PestList] Pest issues with Gingerbread

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div.yiv4487629801WordSection1 {}-->Let me add my voice to the no sticky traps 
for mice, as well as to live trapping.  Not only will they hurt themselves but 
they die of dehydration – a slow death.  With live traps, you must check them 
at least once per day (preferably 2 times per day) or they will die of thirst.  
And, remember that when you release them they might come back in, or get killed 
anyway – mice are territorial and will kill strangers coming into their 
territory.    I will leave you with this image. At a museum I worked at, we 
used live traps next to the loading dock door (not my idea).  My assistant 
checked the trap once and found that a female had given birth and by the time 
we checked all had died.     Snaps are the most humane.  You have to place them 
properly – the trigger perpendicular against the wall.  And mice do love 
chocolate. There is even one trap – The Snap-E trap that has a little cup just 
the right size for jamming a Hershey’s kiss in to it!    
Good Luck.        From: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com>On 
Behalf Of Alan P Van Dyke
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 4:39 PM
To: pestlist@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PestList] Pest issues with Gingerbread    Avoid glue traps for 
mice.  They may seem humane, but the mouse will hurt itself to get loose, or be 
terrified while you spend the time to get it off and clean it up.    If you 
want the mouse alive to release somewhere outside far away from your facility, 
then consider a live trap such as a Victor Catch & Hold 
(https://www.homedepot.com/p/Victor-Multi-Catch-Live-Mouse-Trap-M333/202668291).
  You'll need to check the trap often (at least twice a day).  For insects you 
can still put out the regular Trapper insect blunder traps that hopefully a 
mouse won't get itself stuck in.  Or make a little enclosure for it that bugs 
can walk into but keep mice out.    Good luck!  Having that much gingerbread in 
a gallery would overwhelm me. 
 Alan    Alan Van Dyke  Senior Preservation Technician  Harry Ransom Center 
The University of Texas at Austin 
P.O. Drawer 7219 
Austin, Texas 78713-7219 
P: 512-232-4614 
www.hrc.utexas.edu           On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tony Irwin 
<dr.tony.ir...@gmail.com> wrote: 
Breakback snap traps are usually considered the most humane for mice. Baited 
with chocolate or peanut butter, they will hardly add to the gallery's 
attractiveness, given the amount of gingerbread you already have.  The other 
pests to consider are the Drugstore or Biscuit Beetle (Stegobium paniceum) - it 
depends on how long the house is on display.  But perhaps your biggest problem 
may be errant, hungry children! Not sure what to advise for those... Good luck! 
Tony 
 Dr A.G.Irwin 47 The Avenues Norwich Norfolk NR2 3PH England mobile: 
+44(0)7880707834 phone: +44(0)1603 453524       On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:53, 
Ariana Webber <amweb...@mit.edu> wrote: 
Happy Friday Everyone,   I could use some advice from the listserv.  We are 
installing a work that is essentially a life-sized gingerbread house (84 x 120 
x 84) in our galleries.  The gingerbread tiles are slotted into a steel 
armature.  We worked with a local baker to bake the gingerbread tiles and they 
are sealed with an egg yolk wash. They were delivered to our gallery yesterday 
and are currently boxed and wrapped in plastic.  We are going to start 
installing on Tuesday.  Of course, I am worried about the pest problems having 
this work in our galleries will cause.  I was thinking about putting traps 
(https://www.amazon.com/Mouse-Insect-Glue-Trap-Pack/dp/B00Q71KSG2/ref=sr_1_5?crid=U8TDTF12C9MM&dchild=1&keywords=victor+pest+trap&qid=1599248250&sprefix=pest+traps+vi%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-5)
 inside the house (visitors aren’t allowed to walk inside).  And then placing 
more traps around the galleries at night.   Are mice the main thing I should be 
worried about?  Do the traps we bought seem like the right ones?  I bought 
these because they could be used for both mice and insects and didn’t require 
anything additional as a lure.  Are there any more humane mouse traps that 
don’t introduce additional lures to the space?   Thanks so much for your 
advice!   Best, Ariana   --  Ariana M. Webber
 Registrar for Exhibitions   MIT 
List Visual Arts Center 20 Ames Street, Building E15-109
 Cambridge, MA 02139 
USA
 617-253-6633 office
 503-991-2253 mobile
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