Jason- Did you set live traps for the children?
Alan *Alan Van Dyke * Senior Preservation Technician Harry Ransom Center The University of Texas at Austin P.O. Drawer 7219 Austin, Texas 78713-7219 P: 512-232-4614 www.hrc.utexas.edu <http://hrc.utexas.edu> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:41 PM 'Jason Pugh' via MuseumPests < pestlist@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hellos, > > Pardon the late chiming in, but we actually installed this work some years > ago at our museum. It was in the lobby, near the street entrance. We too > were concerned with pests, but actually did not have any insects or mice. > The greatest threat was indeed patrons (adults as well as children)! One > issue we did have was with the gingerbread. At first we had the baker make > up accurate ginger bread panels, but the amount of sugar and molasses in it > caused the panels to stale, get soft, and fall out/off. We had to remake > the panels without sugar. Did not taste nearly as good. ;) > > Hope this helps a little, > > Jason > > > > *From:* 'bugman22' via MuseumPests [mailto:pestlist@googlegroups.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 1:07 PM > *To:* pestlist@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [PestList] Pest issues with Gingerbread > > > > Thank you Gretchen!! My thoughts entirely... > > > > Tom Parker > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anderson, Gretchen <anders...@carnegiemnh.org> > To: pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2020 3:14 pm > Subject: RE: [PestList] Pest issues with Gingerbread > > Let me add my voice to the no sticky traps for mice, as well as to live > trapping. Not only will they hurt themselves but they die of dehydration – > a slow death. With live traps, you must check them at least once per day > (preferably 2 times per day) or they will die of thirst. And, remember > that when you release them they might come back in, or get killed anyway – > mice are territorial and will kill strangers coming into their territory. > > > > I will leave you with this image. At a museum I worked at, we used live > traps next to the loading dock door (not my idea). My assistant checked > the trap once and found that a female had given birth and by the time we > checked all had died. > > > > Snaps are the most humane. You have to place them properly – the trigger > perpendicular against the wall. And mice do love chocolate. There is even > one trap – The Snap-E trap that has a little cup just the right size for > jamming a Hershey’s kiss in to it! > > > Good Luck. > > > > > > *From:* pestlist@googlegroups.com <pestlist@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf > Of *Alan P Van Dyke > *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2020 4:39 PM > *To:* pestlist@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [PestList] Pest issues with Gingerbread > > > > Avoid glue traps for mice. They may seem humane, but the mouse will hurt > itself to get loose, or be terrified while you spend the time to get it off > and clean it up. > > > > If you want the mouse alive to release somewhere outside far away from > your facility, then consider a live trap such as a Victor Catch & Hold ( > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Victor-Multi-Catch-Live-Mouse-Trap-M333/202668291). > You'll need to check the trap often (at least twice a day). For insects > you can still put out the regular Trapper insect blunder traps that > hopefully a mouse won't get itself stuck in. Or make a little enclosure > for it that bugs can walk into but keep mice out. > > > > Good luck! Having that much gingerbread in a gallery would overwhelm me. > > > Alan > > > > *Alan Van Dyke * > > Senior Preservation Technician > > Harry Ransom Center > The University of Texas at Austin > P.O. Drawer 7219 > Austin, Texas 78713-7219 > P: 512-232-4614 > www.hrc.utexas.edu > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] <http://hrc.utexas.edu/> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 3:15 PM Tony Irwin <dr.tony.ir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Breakback snap traps are usually considered the most humane for mice. > Baited with chocolate or peanut butter, they will hardly add to the > gallery's attractiveness, given the amount of gingerbread you already have. > > The other pests to consider are the Drugstore or Biscuit Beetle (*Stegobium > paniceum*) - it depends on how long the house is on display. > > But perhaps your biggest problem may be errant, hungry children! Not sure > what to advise for those... > > Good luck! > > Tony > > > Dr A.G.Irwin > > 47 The Avenues > > Norwich > > Norfolk NR2 3PH > > England > > mobile: +44(0)7880707834 > > phone: +44(0)1603 453524 > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:53, Ariana Webber <amweb...@mit.edu> wrote: > > Happy Friday Everyone, > > > > I could use some advice from the listserv. We are installing a work that > is essentially a life-sized gingerbread house (84 x 120 x 84) in our > galleries. The gingerbread tiles are slotted into a steel armature. We > worked with a local baker to bake the gingerbread tiles and they are sealed > with an egg yolk wash. They were delivered to our gallery yesterday and are > currently boxed and wrapped in plastic. We are going to start installing > on Tuesday. Of course, I am worried about the pest problems having this > work in our galleries will cause. I was thinking about putting traps ( > https://www.amazon.com/Mouse-Insect-Glue-Trap-Pack/dp/B00Q71KSG2/ref=sr_1_5?crid=U8TDTF12C9MM&dchild=1&keywords=victor+pest+trap&qid=1599248250&sprefix=pest+traps+vi%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-5) > inside the house (visitors aren’t allowed to walk inside). And then > placing more traps around the galleries at night. > > > > Are mice the main thing I should be worried about? Do the traps we bought > seem like the right ones? I bought these because they could be used for > both mice and insects and didn’t require anything additional as a lure. > Are there any more humane mouse traps that don’t introduce additional lures > to the space? > > > > Thanks so much for your advice! > > > > Best, > > Ariana > > > > -- > > Ariana M. 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