Re: [Pharo-dev] [Esug-list] New Mars examples: Package Browser and Test Runner

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kilon wrote: I agree, Morphic is quite messy but its design is very solid. Its just like any huge library need to go under a cleanup phase and be improved. I checked to find out if QT can be accessed from C , the short answer is no. So move along nothing to see here. I dont know what you mean by "export the functionality to C functions" if that means rewriting code from C++ to C , then I will have to pass, QT is huge , even if we utilized the whole pharo community we would not be able to do this. I think focusing on morphic and existing functionality of Mars will do for now. The way I see it best candidate so far is GTK. Not so good on windows and macos , but better than having to maintain separate classes for windoom , macos and linux. And I am not even sure if there many pharoers on windoom anyway, I rarely see it mentioned here. Another interesting candidate is Clutter , its based on Opengl , its a C library and seems to even support OpenGL ES for mobile platform and of course compiles on windooom, macos and linux . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutter_(toolkit) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutter_(toolkit)> I also heard its quite small and easy to use , so maybe morphic could be based on it. I have not used it myself so I cant vouch for it. Sean P. DeNigris wrote kilon wrote And the fact that Morphic is written in smalltalk and not just another C library, is hard to beat for customization When one wants to do something non-standard, Morphic is insanely powerful. The only issue I have is cleaning and refactoring. I think the underlying idea is brilliant. kilon wrote The only problem is that QT is a C++ library and AFAIK pharo FFIs do not support C++ libraries because of name mangling. You have to export the functionality you want to use as C functions. Not that hard, but I've only tried it for proof-of-concepts How about using a C++ interface generator like SWIG? http://www.swig.org/exec.html http://is.muni.cz/th/256594/fi_m/thesis.pdf (note I haven't used this, I've just been browsing around for interest) cheers -ben