On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:

El jue, 09-09-2010 a las 16:01 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

>
>> Isn't Grease dialect dependent by essence ?
>> If Pharo and Squeak diverge, then there will naturally be two versions
>> of Grease...
>> However, for these two messages, I think Pharo core should integrate
>> them and align with Squeak. The question is more whether you need to
>> distinguish Grease-Pharo1_1 from Grease-Pharo1_2 ...
>
> Probably else this means that Pharo and any system is bound to die because
> it does not change.

The rapid changes and no-backwards-compatibility you prefer and advocate are not essential for a Smalltalk system to "stay alive". Just look at VSE, it didn't change in the last 10 years, and people are still using it. In constrast Pharo 1.0 was considered abandonware four months after it's release, which caused trouble for some users who didn't think that they'll have to patch their code and rebuild their images to "get" updates/fixes.

"Yes but they paid support to remain backwards compatible. If I paid
support and not get my system running in new versions then I really
would be a fool for paying."

I'm sure they didn't pay for this.

"Now Squeak/Pharo comes with no warranties, as the license states. So
don't complain because when migrating to a new version *you* must adapt
your code to the new environment. That is expected and nothing to whine
of. If you want that a system runs unchanged for decades, the use a
environment that doesn't change for decades. And remain there, as the
world lets you behind."

When should one complain?


Levente



Levente

>
> This is why configurations are important.
>
> Stef
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