I'd have to agree with Dave. PHP is too far behind and for those that didn't agree with earlier post that started this entire topic about developing a a PHP Platform, this is the reality that we all face. I for one have been using Java and .Net for all my applications now. PHP just doesn't come into the picture any longer. I can't see any performance or coding time benefits that justify using it. The fact that I write something in Java and 20x more people can make use of it is even more gratifying. How long as PEAR being around? Maybe not nearly enough as Java, but don't even have a great collections framework, lack of standard xml parsers and even tools to make our coding easier. I'm a convert I suppose. I'm loosing everyday as I see PHP code already in production and that I can't take the facilities of .NET or Java as a whole. It's sad really that the PHP community isn't large enough to keep up. I too how ze2 will justify any code i've written, but I look now upon it as a very large waste. It's unfortunate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mertens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "brad lafountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Andrey Hristov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The PHP Platform > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:27:06AM -0700, brad lafountain wrote: > > > And next week i have a special C# traning for PHP developers. Offered free by > > > Microsoft. > > > > alls i have to say is WOW. This is one pathetic attempt by Microsoft. > Yeah, but are there any professional tranings for PHP? Do you hear of PHP? > That's the problem i'm facing. I think PHP is great, i really am. > > But the fact the PHP don't have a proper XML parser, only a scripting SOAP parser > makes it for my boss easy to choose for ASP/Java in stead of PHP. And what can i do about it, absolutely nothing! > I don't have the knowledge to make PHP itself better. That why i submit as much as i can (and allowed) to PEAR. > > Hoping that it will end as a set of foundation classes. > > But now, all new projects are done with ASP. And why? Because Microsoft has a damn good marketing machine. > They even have now commercials for .NET! > > And about the training. Microsoft knows that PHP is getting behind and they are saying that .NET can do almost everything what PHP can and more. > I can only say that i hope ZE2 will change this. But i have a hard time on my work defending PHP. > > Yeah. When a company becomes a Microsoft Partner you get a lot of MS licenses for free! Buy MSDN Universal and you get more programs for Free. > And the company i work for is a gold partner. We have 100 free licenses for XP! Why use linux?? > > 2 years ago PHP was leading egde. I hope that the ZE2 engine makes it a leading language again. > > Dave Mertens > > -- > PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
