All, * Paul continues to provide his excellent (and observable) technical skills >
This has been mentioned over and over again; how Paul has unbelievable technical skills. May I point out that he hasn't contributed significantly on a technical basis to any of the proposals since PSR-4... He has filled political support roles (Coordinator, etc), but not technically leading or driving any of the conversations in a non-trivial way. I'm not saying he doesn't have value to add, but a lot of commentary here seems to be under a delusion that he is contributing on a technical front way more than actuality. Over the past few years, the contributions have largely been political and process oriented (that doesn't say they aren't valuable, just that the majority were not technical). I say this, not to discredit or diminish Paul's contributions, but to frame them appropriately based on what many people are claiming. To say that he continues to provide his "excellent and observable technical skills" is a flat misrepresentation of the past several years. Some of you may take this as an insult, and there's nothing I can do to prevent that. It is not meant in any insulting way, but simply as a statement of fact. The other fact remains: So far Paul has not engaged in any dialog to try to understand what he could do better. He has not engaged in any dialog that would lead to an non-trivial changes which would affect his behavior and hence the point of this thread. His replies in this very thread have been hostile and aggressive. Clearly there is no resolution that's going to be reached. So my suggestion: Call the vote and settle this. Don't do an open vote (it's susceptible to retaliation, intimidation and back channel politics). Instead, put together a private mailing list for the vote and have members submit their votes there. Then have 2 non-secretaries (ideally one on either side of the "debate") act as auditors to ensure that the vote is fair (they would agree not to disclose voter information). This is the only way to vote that would be truly fair to everyone (both the voters and Paul himself). Call the vote, let what happens happen, and be done with it. Anthony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CAAyV7nF8CTU5462Ld_pK9xF%2BD5NmxNZy7qZvUp_n8PepqBKnvA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
