On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net> wrote: > Hi Hannes, > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hannes Magnusson [mailto:hannes.magnus...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:34 PM >> To: Anatol Belski >> Cc: Johannes Schlüter; Christoph Becker; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster ML >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources? >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Anatol Belski <anatol....@belski.net> wrote: >> > Hi Johannes, >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Johannes Schlüter [mailto:johan...@schlueters.de] >> >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:52 PM >> >> To: Christoph Becker >> >> Cc: Hannes Magnusson; Anatol Belski; PHP Development; PHP Webmaster >> >> ML >> >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP7 releases vs Windows Sources? >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 16:20 +0200, Christoph Becker wrote: >> >> > Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Then this fix doesn't make any sense -- you are saying if I >> >> > > download the .tar.gz and .zip and extract those two, I will have >> >> > > precisely the same sources? >> >> > > Then this fix should be reverted as there is isn't any special >> >> > > Windows Sources and the official releases should work just fine. >> >> > >> >> > There is some difference (timestamps?) which causes building from >> >> > the tarred sources to fail on Windows (see bug #69829). >> >> >> >> "touching" generated files as part of the packaging process is a good >> >> idea for all platforms. >> >> >> >> > Furthermore >> >> > extracting the tarred sources with 7zip (which seems to be a pretty >> >> > common archiver) results in spurious PaxHeaders.##### directories, >> >> > what is bug in 7zip[1], and doesn't really affect the build, but is >> >> > confusing nonetheless (and requires more disk space). >> >> > >> >> > At least until these issue are solved, IMO it's better to link to >> >> > the "Windows" sources packaged as .zip. >> >> >> >> If there is a need for zip archives I'd put them next to tar.gz etc. >> >> and distribute them via our mirror network. >> >> >> > Yep, this could work and were probably proper solution. Except we wouldn't >> add some issue for the non Windows users :) I'm not sure, why is it done so >> ATM, probably it has its historical reasons. But this would probably cause us >> need to update the release process procedure? And, for PHP7 or for any other >> as >> well? Currently that zipball is just generated with the build process, so >> it'll need >> to be sent over somehow. Were anyway doable, wondering what the other >> RMs would say. Frankly, I'd leave it as it is - as long as it's reachable and >> documented. >> > >> >> >> >> Thats what we want. We want the official release balls to be generated by an >> "official server" using the official toolchain. >> There should never be a time when a Release Manager pulls up his notebook, >> does a checkout and packages that and uploads. Its bad enough we have this >> for >> pecl exts, but there is no reason for php-src to be playing with fire and >> infiltration agencies. >> >> That has unfortunately happened before, and resulted in us distributing .orig >> files (patch conflicts), .exp, .out, .php, ... >> (failed tests results) and even wrongly generated artifacts (due to wrong >> bison/re2c versions installed locally). >> >> We don't want that happen again. >> The official releases should be done on "snap box", and be completely >> automated with no room for accidents. >> It produces several archives, and we can add .zip to that mix if not already >> available. > It's a worthy goal IMHO. Currently it all is done manually as you know.
What! No, I didn't know. I was describing how the process used to be, and I thought it still was. Apparently this was dropped in December 2013: http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=blobdiff;f=README.RELEASE_PROCESS;h=a0c34f8f7aa5bf8782f394572419167e7ff20c7b;hp=6cc9c4e9ab8fc3102f3fe142b100571362af6742;hb=3eb2b1ac4008acd13f51244c7ba009fa381e79f7;hpb=6f739318fd3dc04a01aec762d449949db481bf5d I think we need to fix this situation. Now that you have RMd your first release -- you do seem like the best person to ask for feedback: What were your pain points? What was the biggest time waste? What should be improved? I'm sure we can spin up a server and we script it so all you have to do is click a button. No accidental personal photos in the release archives or local malicious tool injecting itself into the archive. -Hannes -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
