It seems to me that what you are describing is spaces with a history, and a funky history at that. The remembrance of things past, to steal a phrase. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bell" <veracity...@earthlink.net> To: "Pinhole List" <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space
> So far i've done a lot of shooting in diners and also in thrift stores. i > look at thrift stores as a kind of attempt for some people to reclaim this > idea of the past. friends of mine go to them looking for vintage type > clothing. i go there to buy every old camera in sight (it's really > ridiculous, even the broken ones, gotta have those instamatics). i've also > done some industrial/urban landscapes. i think i've stopped defining > authentic space by other people's standards, and started defining it by my > own, which i'm happy about. that was this series of photos becomes > documentary, but also very personal. > > the one thing i'm really struggling with is the process i'm using. you see > i'm doing this all for my color photography class, but i think in the end > it would be better if the prints were something like pt/pd or maybe even > salt prints or something like that. something that is more on the > alternative process tip, simply because i think the subject matter would > lend itself well to such a look. > > whatever are everyone elses thoughts on authentic space? > > steve > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Gregg Kemp <gregg@p at ???????> > > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????> > > Date: 10/27/2002 7:26:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] authentic space > > > > > > On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 06:43 PM, Steve Bell wrote: > > > > > Hmm, well let's see. > > > > > > i originally began with the idea of places where people go to reclaim > > > the > > > past. for example, diners. i go to diners all the time, and a friend of > > > mine started talking to me about the idea of authentic space. like, in > > > the > > > 50's diners were kind of this ideal for the future. all stream lined > > > and > > > chrome and neon. now diners are this ideal of the past. this space > > > where > > > people feel like they are part of something authentic. we also talked > > > about > > > how yuppie artist types get apartments in more urban areas, and nouveau > > > bourgoise people buy industrial type buildings and turn them into > > > living > > > spaces so they can feel more conntected to the working class that > > > they've > > > left behind. this is all architectural theory that she had been > > > reading. > > > > > > it got me very interested. so i've been shooting authentic space. i > > > started > > > off just doing diners and thrift stores, but i've now started relying > > > more > > > on my instincts, shooting whatever feels like authentic space, rather > > > than > > > defining it by these specific criteria. > > > > I find this very interesting Steve - the idea of how the perspective of > > a place changes over time. What places, or types of places have your > > instincts taken you to (if you don't mind my asking)? > > > > And thank you Rosanne, for asking about the meaning of "authentic" > > places. I just assumed I had simply missed out on something else. > > > > - Gregg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > > unsubscribe or change your account at > > http://www.???????/discussion/ > > > --- Steve Bell > --- veracity...@earthlink.net > --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / > http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection > --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be > achieved within the capitalist structure, is > an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, > deceive those whom it oppresses...So > effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of > optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly > hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of > youthful frustration, has been ignored > and softened. --Michael Lydon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML > Pinhole-Discussion mailing list > Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??????? > unsubscribe or change your account at > http://www.???????/discussion/ > >
