from that list... the largest solar power plant in the philippines is SaCaSol1... it cost 4.8 billion pesos and it occupies 66 hectares..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaCaSol_I can you see now who has the false expertise with this debate? fooler. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:41 PM, fooler mail <[email protected]> wrote: > you said: > > "Thorium has the potential power and can be the solution but it cannot > not be implemented today or in the near future." > > "Doing nothing and waiting for something to happen, that is a waste of time." > > thats the question because india already implemented and why > philippines cant and doing nothing and waiting for something to > happen? > > see the tables of the link below why solar is a completely waste of > time because of low efficiency and taking a lot of space compare to > other sources of energy: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_plants_in_the_Philippines > > fooler. > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:47 PM, philip morales <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I did not say the Philippines cant its not my point. I said we can support >> it. >> >> On Mar 27, 2015 9:33 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> other countries are using and improving thorium already... india is >>> doing it already.. why philippines cant? >>> >>> fooler. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:25 PM, philip morales <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Both renewable energy and thorium have their pros and cons. >>> > Renewable energy may not be as promising as thorium but it can be >>> > implemented and use today and can provide significant impact in the >>> > lives of >>> > our fellow citizen. >>> > Thorium has the potential power and can be the solution but it cannot >>> > not be >>> > implemented today or in the near future. >>> > >>> > Why not use the best of both technologies? We can support Obet in his >>> > advocacy not by using it but by just sharing his works to others. We can >>> > reach those people who actually need it. >>> > If in the future a project about thorium came up we can support it as >>> > well. >>> > >>> > If we can utilize renewable energy for the next 10+++ years its a good >>> > investment. >>> > >>> > Doing something that can give significant results like Obet's advocacy >>> > is >>> > not a waste of time. >>> > >>> > Doing nothing and waiting for something to happen, that is a waste of >>> > time. >>> > >>> > Phil >>> > >>> > On Mar 27, 2015 7:28 AM, "fooler mail" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> i respect that as we have different views johann... only time will >>> >> tell someday... >>> >> >>> >> fooler. >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Johann Vincent Paul Tagle >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > Well Fooler, I'll just say I disagree with your statements below and >>> >> > leave >>> >> > it at. Good evening. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:12 PM, fooler mail <[email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> hi johann... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> the problem is we are not solving the root cause of the problem of >>> >> >> our >>> >> >> energy crisis there in the philippines.. installing rooftop solar >>> >> >> panels is a *bandaid* solution to our high cost of electricity there >>> >> >> in the philippines and not about reducing carbon footprint as what >>> >> >> renewable energy proponents trying to fool us... like i said.. who >>> >> >> needs solar panels if we have a cheap electricity... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> fooler. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Johann Vincent Paul Tagle >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > I think it's been years since I last posted a comment here, but >>> >> >> > just >>> >> >> > my >>> >> >> > two >>> >> >> > centavos worth: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Fooler, I'll take your word for it re thorium. Actually a few >>> >> >> > minutes >>> >> >> > of >>> >> >> > googling tells me it's promising. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > However, I think it is wrong to say that betting some resources on >>> >> >> > renewables is a complete waste of time. While solar will not >>> >> >> > cover >>> >> >> > everything, combined with other solutions it is sustainable. And >>> >> >> > guess >>> >> >> > what, it is something almost anyone can take advantage of. What's >>> >> >> > the >>> >> >> > harm >>> >> >> > in encouraging those who have the means to install solar systems >>> >> >> > in >>> >> >> > their >>> >> >> > homes to reduce their carbon footprint, given that even if the >>> >> >> > government >>> >> >> > decides to invest in a thorium plant now, it will still take some >>> >> >> > years >>> >> >> > before we benefit from it? Every MW or even kW saved NOW helps. >>> >> >> > There's >>> >> >> > nothing wrong with promoting something that can give immediate >>> >> >> > results, >>> >> >> > as >>> >> >> > long as you don't overdo it and do more damage than good (e.g. >>> >> >> > clear >>> >> >> > forests >>> >> >> > to make a solar farm). >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > I think both renewables and thorium can be long term solutions. >>> >> >> > For >>> >> >> > example, in places where it will be very expensive to lay out >>> >> >> > power >>> >> >> > lines to >>> >> >> > distribute thorium-generated electricity, things like solar can >>> >> >> > help. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Johann >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Niels Tomey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> yum -y remove coal-powered* && yum -y install thorium-reactor >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> seems like a good start. Honestly I don't think it's a bad thing >>> >> >> >> the >>> >> >> >> Philippines doesn't have nuclear power. Breaking down Meralco's >>> >> >> >> monopoly >>> >> >> >> would be a better way to improve the power situation in this >>> >> >> >> country, >>> >> >> >> because I don't see a reason why electricity should be more >>> >> >> >> expensive >>> >> >> >> here >>> >> >> >> than in my own country (Netherlands / Europe). >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Kind regards, >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Niels Tomey >>> >> >> >> Manager Technical Operations Department >>> >> >> >> iXSforall >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Rod James Bio <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Hi fooler, >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Do you have a suggestion on how we as a linux community, or >>> >> >> >>> better >>> >> >> >>> yet >>> >> >> >>> as >>> >> >> >>> people with no expertise when it comes to nuclear physics, can >>> >> >> >>> contribute? >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> On 3/26/15 12:00, fooler mail wrote: >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> hi dan, >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> this is the reason why i said in my other post that focusing on >>> >> >> >>>> renewable energy is a complete waste of time because it is not >>> >> >> >>>> sustainable... instead people must focus and accelerate on >>> >> >> >>>> clean >>> >> >> >>>> nuclear energy... >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> with clean nuclear energy.. it translates to abundant energy >>> >> >> >>>> (or >>> >> >> >>>> electricity)... this translates further to... >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> 1) with abundant energy.. it creates more food >>> >> >> >>>> 2) with abundant energy.. it creates more water >>> >> >> >>>> 3) with abundant energy.. it creates more advance in >>> >> >> >>>> technology... >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> fooler. >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Danny Ching >>> >> >> >>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>> I think the disparity in the debate is about timelines. From >>> >> >> >>>>> where >>> >> >> >>>>> I'm >>> >> >> >>>>> sitting, both sides are correct. >>> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>> Thorium obviously will become the de facto energy source in >>> >> >> >>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>> future. >>> >> >> >>>>> But >>> >> >> >>>>> for now, while we wait for the tech to become commercially >>> >> >> >>>>> available, >>> >> >> >>>>> solar >>> >> >> >>>>> might be the best stop gap solution. >>> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM Kelsey Hartigan Go >>> >> >> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> Hi >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> Obet and I don't have a couple of billion dollars. So like >>> >> >> >>>>>> Obet, I >>> >> >> >>>>>> will >>> >> >> >>>>>> wait until Thorium development kit is available in stores. >>> >> >> >>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015 9:13 AM, "fooler mail" >>> >> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> my question is do you have the expertise to experiment if i >>> >> >> >>>>>>> give >>> >> >> >>>>>>> you >>> >> >> >>>>>>> where to find thorium? i will let nuclear scientist do the >>> >> >> >>>>>>> experiments >>> >> >> >>>>>>> and not you for your own safety.. sure they will attack with >>> >> >> >>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>> cost >>> >> >> >>>>>>> as the same as they attack the cost of renewable energy >>> >> >> >>>>>>> before... >>> >> >> >>>>>>> it >>> >> >> >>>>>>> took more than a trillion dollars for the research of a >>> >> >> >>>>>>> cellphone >>> >> >> >>>>>>> and >>> >> >> >>>>>>> most of the users just use for selfie and post it in their >>> >> >> >>>>>>> facebook.. >>> >> >> >>>>>>> its just a couple of billion of dollars for the development >>> >> >> >>>>>>> of >>> >> >> >>>>>>> thorium... >>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> fooler. >>> >> >> >>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Kelsey Hartigan Go >>> >> >> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> You can buy solar panels in cdr-king. Where can you buy >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Thorium >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> in >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Philippines if I want to experiment with it? >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> By the way do they come with radiation protection? After >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> you >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> bombard >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> it >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> with >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> neutrons to make it fuel ready, it will be difficult to >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> handle. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> In any case I don't think we'll see Thorium as a renewable >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> energy >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> anytime >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> soon. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a11907/is-the-superfuel-thorium-riskier-than-we-thought-14821644/ >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> -- >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> "When a technology is in some difficulty, and nuclear >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> technology >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> has >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> been >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> shocked by the Fukushima accident in Japan, people search >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> for >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> a >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> magic >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> solution, but there is no silver bullet," he says. "The >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> difference >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> in >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> state of development of thorium versus other sources of >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> fuel >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> is >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> so >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> vast >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> and >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> the cost of developing the technology is so high, it's >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> really >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> questionable >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> today whether it's worthwhile to spend a lot of money on >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> development of >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> thorium." >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> i was trying to suggest for you to look at thorium or clean >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> nuclear >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> energy but your arrogance starts at this statement: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> "I'll look at thorium once I can buy it from a store (or >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Raon...)." >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> fooler. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Roberto Verzola >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, I sent this as private mail but it seems to have >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ended >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> up >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> on >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> list. My apologies to Mr. fooler. This was not meant to be >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> for >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> public >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> consumption. Forgive an old man for his mistake. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Obet >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:59:06 +0800 >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your comment. It is hard to feel welcome to >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> plug >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> if >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> fools >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> who are only after winning debates and nothing else are >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> allowed >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> to >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> get >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> away browbeating others with insults and false expertise. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> It was my mistake, I took the bait. I should have known >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> better. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I've ran lists and boards decades ago, and I still do >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> today. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> won't >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> allow such rude behavior on lists I really care about, >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> even >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> if >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'm >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> not the moderator. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> But of course each list has its own culture and >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> practices. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> If >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> plug >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> prefers it that way, that's also fine. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Greetings, >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Obet >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 04:45:52 +0800 >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Gabriel Briones <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roberto, >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to PLUG :-) >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> debate is always part of the community and I don't think >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> it >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> will >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> change. I've been to this list long enough to witness >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> these >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> :-) >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> And I alway admire people like you who initiates an >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> action >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> to >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> cool >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> down the topic. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> No idea is a bad idea, some ideas are just better, but >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> just >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> like >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> what we're always saying, if what you're doing makes you >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> happy, >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> rest is irrelevant. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Gabriel >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015 19:27, "Roberto Verzola" >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize to all for trigerring an off-topic debate. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> All >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wanted was to reach old friends I knew were still on >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> list. >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, just email me privately. 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