The question is being asked because she will be a "Heartbeat" away
from having those "powers", right?


On Sep 9, 10:21 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> d.b.
>
> You are forgetting one important thing. As Gov. of Alaska Gov. Palin
> was the chief executive of that state and had executive power.
>
> You DO realize, don't you, that the VP of the United States has NO
> executive powers?
>
> On Sep 9, 5:10 am, "d.b.baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The rise of Sarah Palin has virtually nothing to with her personal
> > views regarding abortion - one of the many social issues she prefers
> > leaving to the separate states.
>
> > Sarah's rise has everything to do with her record as a genuine, no
> > nonsense, political reformer. If she could undue the ruling political
> > classes in Alaska, including big oil, there's no reason to believe she
> > can't do likewise in Washington. There's no downside, she can only do
> > better than the status quo - the crooks and thieves who infest
> > American politics from sea to shinning sea.
>
> > Identity politics, gender wars, glass ceilings - it's all factional
> > commentary. The majority will vote for McCain because they want Palin.
> > She's Average-Man's last, unaffected hope.
>
> > On Sep 9, 4:18 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Sarah Palin isn't running for the VP of a Muslim country. She is
> > > running for the possible top job in a supposedly enlightened, balanced
> > > and rational country. As for the US being more tolerant of other
> > > religions than ...(you mentioned Europe) , it isn't Europe which has
> > > spewed such hatred for Muslims as I have seen in this list.
> > > And finally, the right-wing Americans seem to have forgotten one
> > > important ideology in the Constitution...that the Church and the State
> > > are separate. That a VP should not be electedd beause she is a
> > > fundamentalist Christian to the extent that she thinks that women who
> > > are pregnant due to having been raped should be condemneed to a
> > > lifetime of a child she doesn't want and which was forced on her.
> > > Now you can back-pedal all you want about "what she says and thinks is
> > > irrelevant because it won't be enacted in law"...I suggest that it is
> > > precisely what she thinks which has made the far right so enamoured of
> > > her.
> > > I am staggered that such extremist bias has become mainstream. I
> > > suggest that after GW and his disastrous 8 years, America is either in
> > > shock or up their own behinds.
> > > I also suggest that the choice of a governor of less than 2 years of a
> > > population of 770,000 which is less than the size of our medium
> > > cities, which is Alaska, has more to do with oil than may be at first
> > > glance. The US didn't get all teh oil they wanted out of the Iraqi
> > > war...they are now going to get it out of Alaska. And Palin is an
> > > avowed denier of global warming (yet another really intelligent
> > > stance).
> > > Between McCain's constant whining about his VietNam years (as soon as
> > > he says he doesn't want to talk about it he mentions it) and her off-
> > > the-wall far-right extremist views, it is clear to anyone who can see
> > > out of his own backside that this is a disaster for the US as a global
> > > player.
>
> > > On Sep 8, 7:14 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > There are MANY creationists in this country and MOST people around the
> > > > world believe in something other than the Big Bang or Evolution. Just
> > > > ask any Muslim. In any event, Evolution and the Big Bang are just
> > > > theories. Not buying into them is hardly extremist.
>
> > > > On Sep 8, 1:24 pm, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > BBC Radio4 three days ago as I listened to a conversation with some
> > > > > Republican women who are upset about Palin's attitude to abortion.
> > > > > And if being a creationist isn't a fundamental Christian extremist
> > > > > POV, I can't think of a better example. My reference to bias to other
> > > > > countries was in the context of musing as to whether she would carry
> > > > > bias against Muslim countries including African ones.
> > > > > creusa
>
> > > > > On Sep 8, 3:33 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hello CREUSA!
>
> > > > > > I read the comments below yours, but I am curious as to how you came
> > > > > > to the conclusions that you did.....What issues are there, or what
> > > > > > specifically is it that you believe Governor Palin to be a
> > > > > > "fundamentalist extremist"?  Where did you come up with this
> > > > > > information that Governor Palin would outlaw all abortions?   
> > > > > > Because
> > > > > > she chose to carry her downs syndrome baby to term?  What "bias to
> > > > > > other countries"?  Where do you come up with such untruthful,
> > > > > > prevaricate information?
>
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 6:43 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > What on earth is WRONG with you all in the US? Have you all lost 
> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > understanding of moderation and commn sense? Is this how people 
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > Planet Belch think?
>
> > > > > > > She is a fundamentalist extremist...and I find it highly amusing 
> > > > > > > (if
> > > > > > > it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike
> > > > > > > fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually supporting 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > in your own.
>
> > > > > > > Are you going to tell me that someone who objects to abortion 
> > > > > > > even in
> > > > > > > cases of rape or incest is balanced????? That believing that 
> > > > > > > evolution
> > > > > > > doesn't happen is balanced and open minded enough to possibly run 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > country?
>
> > > > > > > And who knows much of anything about her stance on the handling 
> > > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > economy, (kind of important right now...) capital punishment 
> > > > > > > (I'll bet
> > > > > > > I can make a good guess at this one...) or oil exploration? How 
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > international diplomacy or her bias concerning other countries?
>
> > > > > > > Where in God's name have you all left your good sense??
>
> > > > > > > creusa
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 8, 6:42 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Libertarians Voting for the Republican Ticket?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> > > > > > > > Something tells me Obama is in some serioous trouble now...
>
> > > > > > > > How long before he dump Biden and BEGS Hillary to be his 
> > > > > > > > VP?!?!?!?!?
>
> > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 9:19 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Sarah Palinby Walter Block
> > > > > > > > > No one who has anything nice to say about Ron Paul can be all 
> > > > > > > > > bad. Sarah Palin has said nice things about Ron Paul 
> > > > > > > > > (seehere,here,here,hereandhere). Ergo, therefore, as a 
> > > > > > > > > result, it cannot be denied, it logically follows, Sarah 
> > > > > > > > > Palin cannot be all bad. That is, she cannot be all badno 
> > > > > > > > > matter what elseshe is guilty of (within reason of course.)
> > > > > > > > > So, what are the criticisms of her?
> > > > > > > > > First and foremost, she is accused of not having enough 
> > > > > > > > > experience. I admit it! She does not have enough experience. 
> > > > > > > > > Enough experience, that is, to become emperor of the world. 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, John McCain, Barack Obama and Joe Biden do seek this 
> > > > > > > > > post of planetary domination, now held by George Bush. That 
> > > > > > > > > is, these three show every evidence of wanting to continue 
> > > > > > > > > the U.S. role as hegemon of the entire globe. Now, it may 
> > > > > > > > > well be that Palin will in future be seduced into this sort 
> > > > > > > > > of ambition. But, at least as ofright now, there is little or 
> > > > > > > > > no evidence of it (apart from some pro-war sentiment). Of the 
> > > > > > > > > four presidential and vice presidential candidates, her 
> > > > > > > > > present experience shows theleastdesire to rule the world. 
> > > > > > > > > So, her "lack of experience" is a good thing, not a bad one.
> > > > > > > > > Does she have enough "experience" to be president of a 
> > > > > > > > > country with a limited government, and no aspiration to be 
> > > > > > > > > world dictator? Of course she does. And, again, she 
> > > > > > > > > hasmoreexperience in this regard than either McCain, Obama or 
> > > > > > > > > Biden. She, alone of the four of them, has 
> > > > > > > > > hadexecutiveexperience as the Governor of the great state of 
> > > > > > > > > Alaska, while the other three have been whiling their way in 
> > > > > > > > > a relatively unimportant institution, in this era of 
> > > > > > > > > presidential power. So, don’t talk to me about experience, as 
> > > > > > > > > a critique of this lady.
> > > > > > > > > Second, it is said that with five children, she has too many 
> > > > > > > > > other obligations to take on the role of vice president. Give 
> > > > > > > > > me a break. She can’t vote in the senate when there is a tie? 
> > > > > > > > > C’mon! This charge emanates from left-wing feminists, of 
> > > > > > > > > course. Suppose Hillary were to have had five children the 
> > > > > > > > > ages of Sarah’s. Would the legions of her supporters be 
> > > > > > > > > making this case with regard to Mrs. Clinton? To ask this is 
> > > > > > > > > to answer it. In that case, Hillary’s ascendency would only 
> > > > > > > > > serve as evidence that "You can have it all." The hypocrisy 
> > > > > > > > > of these "feminists" stinks to the high heavens. They do not 
> > > > > > > > > support the idea ofwomenbreaking through the so-called glass 
> > > > > > > > > ceiling. Rather, they favorleft-wing socialist femalesbeing 
> > > > > > > > > given positions of authority and responsibility. This is 
> > > > > > > > > something very different. It is a rare occasion that these 
> > > > > > > > > feminists have been caught with their contradictions so much 
> > > > > > > > > in the public eye. All those sick and tired of these 
> > > > > > > > > harridans ought to thank Sarah for this one boon alone.
> > > > > > > > > Third, a criticism made by some libertarians is that her 
> > > > > > > > > adherence to our principles is only skin deep; she has raised 
> > > > > > > > > some taxes, considered banning some books from libraries, 
> > > > > > > > > engaged in public-private ventures regarding oil pipelines, 
> > > > > > > > > she is altogether too friendly to US foreign aggression. Yes, 
> > > > > > > > > yes, she is no libertarian, certainly not of the purist 
> > > > > > > > > variety. She is no Ron Paul. But, a little context here, 
> > > > > > > > > please. Compared to McCain, Obama and Biden, she is a 
> > > > > > > > > veritable Murray N. Rothbard. What about matching her up 
> > > > > > > > > against all the other 49 governors? Well, Bobby Jindal of 
> > > > > > > > > Louisiana is not all bad as far as these things go, and there 
> > > > > > > > > might be another half dozen of this breed, mainly in the 
> > > > > > > > > poorly populated states west of the Mississippi, but surely 
> > > > > > > > > Sarah Palin fits
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