Obama is a piece of shit as well On Sep 10, 2:49 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Palin experience is in many ways like Obama's --- thin... This > argument is a loser for you... > > On Sep 9, 8:21 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You people believe in weapons of mass destruction, you will believe > > anything. ? Palin has no political experience,not that that is a plus > > in todays political climate' she is a carrot to the religious right to > > get them on side because the republicans desperately need their > > redneck votes. Fortunately for the GOP, Obama's right wing credentials > > are coming to the fore, alienating him from large sections of the > > left, bringing about the dramatic change in the polls. Neither are > > worth a piece of shit. They are complete and utter reprobates. > > > On Sep 9, 8:10 pm, "d.b.baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The rise of Sarah Palin has virtually nothing to with her personal > > > views regarding abortion - one of the many social issues she prefers > > > leaving to the separate states. > > > > Sarah's rise has everything to do with her record as a genuine, no > > > nonsense, political reformer. If she could undue the ruling political > > > classes in Alaska, including big oil, there's no reason to believe she > > > can't do likewise in Washington. There's no downside, she can only do > > > better than the status quo - the crooks and thieves who infest > > > American politics from sea to shinning sea. > > > > Identity politics, gender wars, glass ceilings - it's all factional > > > commentary. The majority will vote for McCain because they want Palin. > > > She's Average-Man's last, unaffected hope. > > > > On Sep 9, 4:18 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Sarah Palin isn't running for the VP of a Muslim country. She is > > > > running for the possible top job in a supposedly enlightened, balanced > > > > and rational country. As for the US being more tolerant of other > > > > religions than ...(you mentioned Europe) , it isn't Europe which has > > > > spewed such hatred for Muslims as I have seen in this list. > > > > And finally, the right-wing Americans seem to have forgotten one > > > > important ideology in the Constitution...that the Church and the State > > > > are separate. That a VP should not be electedd beause she is a > > > > fundamentalist Christian to the extent that she thinks that women who > > > > are pregnant due to having been raped should be condemneed to a > > > > lifetime of a child she doesn't want and which was forced on her. > > > > Now you can back-pedal all you want about "what she says and thinks is > > > > irrelevant because it won't be enacted in law"...I suggest that it is > > > > precisely what she thinks which has made the far right so enamoured of > > > > her. > > > > I am staggered that such extremist bias has become mainstream. I > > > > suggest that after GW and his disastrous 8 years, America is either in > > > > shock or up their own behinds. > > > > I also suggest that the choice of a governor of less than 2 years of a > > > > population of 770,000 which is less than the size of our medium > > > > cities, which is Alaska, has more to do with oil than may be at first > > > > glance. The US didn't get all teh oil they wanted out of the Iraqi > > > > war...they are now going to get it out of Alaska. And Palin is an > > > > avowed denier of global warming (yet another really intelligent > > > > stance). > > > > Between McCain's constant whining about his VietNam years (as soon as > > > > he says he doesn't want to talk about it he mentions it) and her off- > > > > the-wall far-right extremist views, it is clear to anyone who can see > > > > out of his own backside that this is a disaster for the US as a global > > > > player. > > > > > On Sep 8, 7:14 pm, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > There are MANY creationists in this country and MOST people around the > > > > > world believe in something other than the Big Bang or Evolution. Just > > > > > ask any Muslim. In any event, Evolution and the Big Bang are just > > > > > theories. Not buying into them is hardly extremist. > > > > > > On Sep 8, 1:24 pm, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > BBC Radio4 three days ago as I listened to a conversation with some > > > > > > Republican women who are upset about Palin's attitude to abortion. > > > > > > And if being a creationist isn't a fundamental Christian extremist > > > > > > POV, I can't think of a better example. My reference to bias to > > > > > > other > > > > > > countries was in the context of musing as to whether she would carry > > > > > > bias against Muslim countries including African ones. > > > > > > creusa > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 3:33 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello CREUSA! > > > > > > > > I read the comments below yours, but I am curious as to how you > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > to the conclusions that you did.....What issues are there, or what > > > > > > > specifically is it that you believe Governor Palin to be a > > > > > > > "fundamentalist extremist"? Where did you come up with this > > > > > > > information that Governor Palin would outlaw all abortions? > > > > > > > Because > > > > > > > she chose to carry her downs syndrome baby to term? What "bias to > > > > > > > other countries"? Where do you come up with such untruthful, > > > > > > > prevaricate information? > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 6:43 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What on earth is WRONG with you all in the US? Have you all > > > > > > > > lost any > > > > > > > > understanding of moderation and commn sense? Is this how people > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > Planet Belch think? > > > > > > > > > She is a fundamentalist extremist...and I find it highly > > > > > > > > amusing (if > > > > > > > > it were not so tragic) that those in this forum who dislike > > > > > > > > fundamental extremism in in other cultures is actually > > > > > > > > supporting it > > > > > > > > in your own. > > > > > > > > > Are you going to tell me that someone who objects to abortion > > > > > > > > even in > > > > > > > > cases of rape or incest is balanced????? That believing that > > > > > > > > evolution > > > > > > > > doesn't happen is balanced and open minded enough to possibly > > > > > > > > run the > > > > > > > > country? > > > > > > > > > And who knows much of anything about her stance on the handling > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > economy, (kind of important right now...) capital punishment > > > > > > > > (I'll bet > > > > > > > > I can make a good guess at this one...) or oil exploration? How > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > international diplomacy or her bias concerning other countries? > > > > > > > > > Where in God's name have you all left your good sense?? > > > > > > > > > creusa > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 6:42 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Libertarians Voting for the Republican Ticket?!?!?!?!?!? > > > > > > > > > > Something tells me Obama is in some serioous trouble now... > > > > > > > > > > How long before he dump Biden and BEGS Hillary to be his > > > > > > > > > VP?!?!?!?!? > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 9:19 pm, "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sarah Palinby Walter Block > > > > > > > > > > No one who has anything nice to say about Ron Paul can be > > > > > > > > > > all bad. Sarah Palin has said nice things about Ron Paul > > > > > > > > > > (seehere,here,here,hereandhere). Ergo, therefore, as a > > > > > > > > > > result, it cannot be denied, it logically follows, Sarah > > > > > > > > > > Palin cannot be all bad. That is, she cannot be all badno > > > > > > > > > > matter what elseshe is guilty of (within reason of course.) > > > > > > > > > > So, what are the criticisms of her? > > > > > > > > > > First and foremost, she is accused of not having enough > > > > > > > > > > experience. I admit it! She does not have enough > > > > > > > > > > experience. Enough experience, that is, to become emperor > > > > > > > > > > of the world. Yes, John McCain, Barack Obama and Joe Biden > > > > > > > > > > do seek this post of planetary domination, now held by > > > > > > > > > > George Bush. That is, these three show every evidence of > > > > > > > > > > wanting to continue the U.S. role as hegemon of the entire > > > > > > > > > > globe. Now, it may well be that Palin will in future be > > > > > > > > > > seduced into this sort of ambition. But, at least as > > > > > > > > > > ofright now, there is little or no evidence of it (apart > > > > > > > > > > from some pro-war sentiment). Of the four presidential and > > > > > > > > > > vice presidential candidates, her present experience shows > > > > > > > > > > theleastdesire to rule the world. So, her "lack of > > > > > > > > > > experience" is a good thing, not a bad one. > > > > > > > > > > Does she have enough "experience" to be president of a > > > > > > > > > > country with a limited government, and no aspiration to be > > > > > > > > > > world dictator? Of course she does. And, again, she > > > > > > > > > > hasmoreexperience in this regard than either McCain, Obama > > > > > > > > > > or Biden. She, alone of the four of them, has > > > > > > > > > > hadexecutiveexperience as the Governor of the great state > > > > > > > > > > of Alaska, while the other three have been whiling their > > > > > > > > > > way in a relatively unimportant institution, in this era of > > > > > > > > > > presidential power. So, don’t talk to me about experience, > > > > > > > > > > as a critique of this lady. > > > > > > > > > > Second, it is said that with five children, she has too > > > > > > > > > > many other obligations to take on the role of vice > > > > > > > > > > president. Give me a break. She can’t vote in the senate > > > > > > > > > > when there is a tie? C’mon! This charge emanates from > > > > > > > > > > left-wing feminists, of course. Suppose Hillary were to > > > > > > > > > > have had five children the ages of Sarah’s. Would the > > > > > > > > > > legions of her supporters be making this case with regard > > > > > > > > > > to Mrs. Clinton? To ask this is to answer it. In that case, > > > > > > > > > > Hillary’s ascendency would only serve as evidence that "You > > > > > > > > > > can have it all." The hypocrisy of these "feminists" stinks > > > > > > > > > > to the high heavens. They do not support the idea > > > > > > > > > > ofwomenbreaking through the so-called glass ceiling. > > > > > > > > > > Rather, they favorleft-wing socialist femalesbeing given > > > > > > > > > > positions of authority and responsibility. This is > > > > > > > > > > something very different. It is a rare occasion that these > > > > > > > > > > feminists have been caught with their contradictions so > > > > > > > > > > much in the public eye. All those sick and tired of these > > > > > > > > > > harridans ought to thank Sarah for this one boon alone. > > > > > > > > > > Third, a criticism made by some libertarians is that her > > > > > > > > > > adherence to our principles is only skin deep; she has > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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