On Sep 9, 5:40 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> he is running for the possible top job in a supposedly enlightened,
> >>> balanced and rational country.
>
> I understand YOUR position is that this means "all leaders should
> believe in Science as I understand it"... Part of the difference
> between Europe and the US is that the US is grounded by the English
> and Scotish Enlighenment which was Deistic.
The enlightenment was rational...it was the supremacy of reason. Not
something you have maintained.
Europe settled for the
> French atheistic version...
Don't be silly...France was Roman Catholic. In those days it mattered.
We have become more secular as we have had to absorb so many other
faiths and cultures.
Now in OUR "enlightened, balanced and
> rational country" we allow for different opinions and not insist on
> only the Truth as seen be Evolutionists...
So you "rationalists" deny science? Do you then deny the study of
genetics and do you, for example, never wonder why it is possible to
modify animals and crops for yield, looks and performance? Are you
just stubbornly blind?
What I am suggesting here
> is maybe it is Europe which is not the "enlightened, balanced and
> rational" ones when it comes to philosophy and theology...
You wouldn't know, not living here. Your assessment of Europe is not
the one I llive in but a product of your media...not known for its
balance.
>
> >>> As for the US being more tolerant of other religions than ...(you
> >>> mentioned Europe) , it isn't Europe which has spewed such hatred for
> >>> Muslims as I have seen in this list.
>
> There is less anti-Moslem violence in the US than there is in
> Europe... Holland, Francs, Spain, Germany, Sweden, Denmark among
> others have story after story affirming the ghettoization of Moslems
> (either by general society or self imposed)... The news is full of
> Moslem violence and rioting and anti-Moslem violence and rioting...
> I will suggest that there is LESS toleration in Europe between Moslems
> and Europeans than there is in the US...
Nonsense. WE have our problems but we don't HATE them as I have seen
expressed here...in fact wehave a far greatertolerance for muslims
than it seems Ameicans have for their black citizens since it is this
which is making Obama's victory so difficult. Hatred? You have only
had Civil /Human Rights here for 45 years.
>
> >>> I am staggered that such extremist bias has become mainstream. I suggest
> >>> that after GW and his disastrous 8 years, America is either in
>
> shock or up their own behinds.
>
> You of course are overlooking the extremeism by the Left in the US...
> Second, Bush will be remembered in History far kinder than you are
> suggesting -- Harry Truman comes to mind...
>
It isn't for you to say...that is a discursive guess.
> >>> I also suggest that the choice of a governor of less than 2 years of a
> >>> population of 770,000 which is less than the size of our medium
>
> cities, which is Alaska,
>
> Palin hasMORE governing experience than Obama... I would suggest if
> you have a problem with Palin, you also should have one with
> Obama... But you don't, so I suggest you examine your own bias...
That is why Europe is so keen to see Obama elected...we know he is
more in tune with the way the rest of the world thinks. Jeez...Palin
hasn't set foot outside the US ever!!!
>
> >>> has more to do with oil than may be at first glance. The US
> didn't get all teh oil they wanted out of the Iraqi
> war...they are now going to get it out of Alaska. And Palin is an
> avowed denier of global warming (yet another really intelligent
> stance).
>
> As Oil Independence is a major issue, should not an expert in oil be
> seen as a qualifying trait???
No...her expertise comes with a worrying attitude towards the
environment...that it is there to rape.
As to Iraqi oil, the US never tried to
> take Iraqi oil for the US...
Not what I read here a couple of years ago. How do you know it was a
myth? Please post documented proof that it was a myth.
That is just a myth much of Europe is
> believes --- this is not unlike Europe's populist Witch Trails, got
> to blame someone for your troubles why not America... Have fun
> dealing with Russia on Energy...
If you lot would stop building missile bases in Poland we would have
an easier time. We aren't having a problem with Russia...it is the US
they are mumbling about. And as for witches, your witch trialas in
Mass were born out of ignorance of the reality they were in. Born of
being stockaded and isolated. Born of the kind of extremist religion
that the creationists believe. You were wrong then...you are wrong
now.
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