There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism" --- your ignorance has been noted again.
*Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian Restorationism*.[ 1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> Hippolytus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolytus_of_Rome>[3] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-hippol-3> and Irenaeus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus>[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-iren-4> foresaw a Jewish return from exile, despite unbelief. Traditional Catholic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic> thought however did not consider Zionism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism> in any form;[5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-Regina_Sharif_1983.2C_page_10-5> Christian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian> advocacy of the restoration of the Jews arose following the Protestant Reformation <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation>. A contemporary Israeli historian suggests that evangelical Christian Zionists of the 1840s 'passed this notion on to Jewish circles'.[6] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-shapira-6> Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the chosen people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See [Romans 11:17-24] <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> and dual-covenant theology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:07:11 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > As we have discussed the last month, this definition that you posted was > re-defined back in August. I posted the original definition that was from > Wiki in mid-August, and the definition was changed like a week later. > This, after your pal, Charles Hagee started this nonsense. > > There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism"; total bull > hockey, and you know it Plain Ol'. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is.you >> apparently don't understand "Zionism" because Zionist are only Jews! >> --- >> your ignorance has been noted again >> *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State >> of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in >> accordance with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism >> began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian >> Restorationism*.[1] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> >> Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel >> is a prerequisite for the Second Coming >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is >> primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian >> Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The >> idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of >> Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged >> to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been >> common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many >> Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the >> chosen >> people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with >> the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] >> <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> >> and dual-covenant theology >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) >> >> In 1818, President John Adams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams> >> wrote, >> "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation", and believed >> that they would gradually become Unitarian Christians.[29] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-29> >> In 1844, George Bush >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_(Biblical_scholar)>, a >> professor of Hebrew at New York University >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University> and the cousin of an >> ancestor of the Presidents Bush, published a book titled *The Valley of >> Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived*. In it he denounced "the >> thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the >> dust," and called for "elevating" the Jews "to a rank of honorable repute >> among the nations of the earth" by allowing restoring the Jews to the land >> of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_the_Jews>.[30] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-30> This, >> according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, >> forming a "link of communication" between humanity and God. "It will blaze >> in notoriety ...". "It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all >> kindreds and tongues of the truth."[7] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7> >> >> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:12:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> But you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is. >>> You cannot even say Christianity, referencing a city in China to refer to >>> such, and also just as obviously, you apparently don't understand "Zionism" >>> because Zionist are only Jews! >>> >>> You should get a nice refreshing cup of "Wake The Hell Up" Plain Ol'! >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:41 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? >>>> --- >>>> not jews ... zionists. >>>> >>>> your approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? >>>> --- >>>> unlike the jews and xians, I don't give aid and support to illegals and >>>> would deport them asap by any means necessary. >>>> your approval of giving weapons to zionists says tons about your >>>> patriotism. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:54:18 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Okay, I re-read your initial post: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing >>>>> And Extorting Migrants---chump change compared to what warmongering >>>>> neocons >>>>> and zionists are making from weapons sales.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You compared Mexican gangs making up to $250 mil. annually by abusing >>>>> and extorting illegal aliens in this Nation, and somehow justifying this >>>>> act and comparing it to what you term "chump change to warmongering >>>>> neocons" and Jews selling weapons. >>>>> >>>>> What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? Or your >>>>> approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:51 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Your advocating for Mexican gangs to continue shipping illegal >>>>>> immigrants to the United States, >>>>>> --- >>>>>> your reading comprehension deficiency has been noted again. >>>>>> >>>>>> or your hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? >>>>>> --- >>>>>> only those who sell to warmongers. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:11:58 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And this comment has to do with what? Your advocating for Mexican >>>>>>> gangs to continue shipping illegal immigrants to the United States, or >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing >>>>>>>> And Extorting Migrants >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and zionists are >>>>>>>> making from weapons sales. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Harold posted: "Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, >>>>>>>>> Reuters10/12/2014Source ..... Tens of thousands of Central American >>>>>>>>> migrants are being kidnapped, abused and extorted by Mexican gangs >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> yards from the United States in a growing racket that may be worth up >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> $25" Respond to this post by replying above this line >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"* >>>>>>>>> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> Mexican Gangs >>>>>>>>> Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And Extorting >>>>>>>>> Migrants >>>>>>>>> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/03-1510/> by Harold >>>>>>>>> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, Reuters 10/12/2014 Source >>>>>>>>> ..... Tens of thousands of Central American migrants are being >>>>>>>>> kidnapped, >>>>>>>>> abused and extorted by Mexican gangs just yards from the United >>>>>>>>> States in a >>>>>>>>> growing racket that may be worth up to $250 million a year. 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