You and your pal Chaz Hagee --- have nothing in common. At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and it's flat out ridiculous! --- oh, so it's more history revision because you don't acknowledge the fact that zionist christians believe that the return of the Jews <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>? too bad.
On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:39:17 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Hey Plain Ol'! > > You and your pal Chaz Hagee should (and will!) sit around in the Tennessee > Hills and chit-chat about the movement then Plain Ol'. Ya'll two are > similar in an number of different respects. > > At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that > fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and > it's flat out ridiculous! Moreover, most Christian Americans see through > such horse hockey, and know the real reasoning for such an > attack........The old adage, "Keep your right hand busy, and never let them > see what you are doing with your left hand" comes to mind..... > > But go ahead and think that in Christian Churches across the Nation, we're > all sitting around planning our great move to the Israeli desert! > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism" > --- > your ignorance has been noted again. > > *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism began > to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian Restorationism* > .[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> > > Hippolytus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolytus_of_Rome>[3] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-hippol-3> and > Irenaeus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus>[4] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-iren-4> foresaw > a Jewish return from exile, despite unbelief. Traditional Catholic > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic> thought however > did not consider Zionism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism> in any > form;[5] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-Regina_Sharif_1983.2C_page_10-5> > > Christian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian> advocacy of the > restoration of the Jews arose following the Protestant Reformation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation>. A contemporary > Israeli historian suggests that evangelical Christian Zionists of the 1840s > 'passed this notion on to Jewish circles'.[6] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-shapira-6> > > Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel > is a prerequisite for the Second Coming > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is > primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian > Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The > idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of > Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged > to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been > common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many > Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the > chosen > people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with > the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See [Romans 11:17-24] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> > and dual-covenant theology > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism > > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:07:11 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > As we have discussed the last month, this definition that you posted was > re-defined back in August. I posted the original definition that was from > Wiki in mid-August, and the definition was changed like a week later. > This, after your pal, Charles Hagee started this nonsense. > > There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism"; total bull > hockey, and you know it Plain Ol'. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is.you > apparently don't understand "Zionism" because Zionist are only Jews! > --- > your ignorance has been noted again > *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism began > to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian Restorationism* > .[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> > Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel > is a prerequisite for the Second Coming > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is > primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian > Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The > idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of > Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged > to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been > common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many > Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the > chosen > people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with > the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> > and dual-covenant theology > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) > > In 1818, President John Adams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams> > wrote, > "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation", and believed > that they would gradually become Unitarian Christians.[29] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-29> > In 1844, George Bush > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_(Biblical_scholar)>, a > professor of Hebrew at New York University > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University> and the cousin of an > ancestor of the Presidents Bush, published a book titled *The Valley of > Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived*. In it he denounced "the > thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the > dust," and called for "elevating" the Jews "to a rank of honorable repute > among the nations of the earth" by allowing restoring the Jews to the land > of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_the_Jews>.[30] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-30> This, > according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, > forming a "link of communication" between humanity and God. "It will blaze > in notoriety ...". "It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all > kindreds and tongues of the truth."[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7> > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:12:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > But you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is. > You cannot even say Christianity, referencing a city in China to refer to > such, and also just as obviously, you apparently don't understand "Zionism" > because Zionist are only Jews! > > You should get a nice refreshing cup of "Wake The Hell Up" Plain Ol'! > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:41 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? > --- > not jews ... zionists. > > your approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? > --- > unlike the jews and xians, I don't give aid and support to illegals and > would deport them asap by any means necessary. > your approval of giving weapons to zionists says tons about your > patriotism. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:54:18 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Okay, I re-read your initial post: > > > > *Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And > Extorting Migrants---chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and > zionists are making from weapons sales.* > > > You compared Mexican gangs making up to $250 mil. annually by abusing and > extorting illegal aliens in this Nation, and somehow justifying this act > and comparing it to what you term "chump change to warmongering neocons" > and Jews selling weapons. > > What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? Or your > approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:51 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Your advocating for Mexican gangs to continue shipping illegal immigrants > to the United States, > --- > your reading comprehension deficiency has been noted again. > > or your hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? > --- > only those who sell to warmongers. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:11:58 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > And this comment has to do with what? Your advocating for Mexican gangs > to continue shipping illegal immigrants to the United States, or your > hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And > Extorting Migrants > --- > chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and zionists are making > from weapons sales. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > > > > > Harold posted: "Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, > Reuters10/12/2014Source ..... Tens of thousands of Central American > migrants are being kidnapped, abused and extorted by Mexican gangs just > yards from the United States in a growing racket that may be worth up to > $25" Respond to this post by replying above this line > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"* > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> Mexican Gangs Could Be > Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And Extorting Migrants > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/03-1510/> by Harold > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> > > Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, Reuters 10/12/2014 Source ..... > Tens of thousands of Central American migrants are being kidnapped, abused > and extorted by Mexican gangs just yards from the United States in a > growing racket that may be worth up to $250 million a year. 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