No Plain Ol'; as I documented back in the middle of August, 2014, the definition of Christian Zionism contained within Wikipedia was limited to this one paragraph, (which has also been expanded)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the chosen people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> and dual-covenant theology <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > You and your pal Chaz Hagee > --- > have nothing in common. > > At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that > fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and > it's flat out ridiculous! > --- > oh, so it's more history revision because you don't acknowledge the fact > that zionist christians believe that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>? > too bad. > > > On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:39:17 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Hey Plain Ol'! >> >> You and your pal Chaz Hagee should (and will!) sit around in the >> Tennessee Hills and chit-chat about the movement then Plain Ol'. Ya'll two >> are similar in an number of different respects. >> >> At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that >> fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and >> it's flat out ridiculous! Moreover, most Christian Americans see through >> such horse hockey, and know the real reasoning for such an >> attack........The old adage, "Keep your right hand busy, and never let them >> see what you are doing with your left hand" comes to mind..... >> >> But go ahead and think that in Christian Churches across the Nation, >> we're all sitting around planning our great move to the Israeli desert! >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism" >> --- >> your ignorance has been noted again. >> >> *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State >> of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in >> accordance with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism >> began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian >> Restorationism*.[1] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> >> >> Hippolytus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolytus_of_Rome>[3] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-hippol-3> and >> Irenaeus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus>[4] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-iren-4> >> foresaw a Jewish return from exile, despite unbelief. Traditional >> Catholic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic> thought >> however did not consider Zionism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism> >> in any form;[5] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-Regina_Sharif_1983.2C_page_10-5> >> Christian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian> advocacy of the >> restoration of the Jews arose following the Protestant Reformation >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation>. A contemporary >> Israeli historian suggests that evangelical Christian Zionists of the 1840s >> 'passed this notion on to Jewish circles'.[6] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-shapira-6> >> >> Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel >> is a prerequisite for the Second Coming >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is >> primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian >> Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The >> idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of >> Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged >> to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been >> common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many >> Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the >> chosen >> people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with >> the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See [Romans 11:17-24] >> <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> >> and dual-covenant theology >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:07:11 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> As we have discussed the last month, this definition that you posted was >> re-defined back in August. I posted the original definition that was from >> Wiki in mid-August, and the definition was changed like a week later. >> This, after your pal, Charles Hagee started this nonsense. >> >> There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism"; total bull >> hockey, and you know it Plain Ol'. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is.you >> apparently don't understand "Zionism" because Zionist are only Jews! >> --- >> your ignorance has been noted again >> *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State >> of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in >> accordance with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism >> began to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian >> Restorationism*.[1] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> >> Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel >> is a prerequisite for the Second Coming >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is >> primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian >> Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The >> idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of >> Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged >> to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been >> common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many >> Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the >> chosen >> people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with >> the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] >> <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> >> and dual-covenant theology >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) >> >> In 1818, President John Adams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams> >> wrote, >> "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation", and believed >> that they would gradually become Unitarian Christians.[29] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-29> >> In 1844, George Bush >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_(Biblical_scholar)>, a >> professor of Hebrew at New York University >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University> and the cousin of an >> ancestor of the Presidents Bush, published a book titled *The Valley of >> Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived*. In it he denounced "the >> thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the >> dust," and called for "elevating" the Jews "to a rank of honorable repute >> among the nations of the earth" by allowing restoring the Jews to the land >> of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_the_Jews>.[30] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-30> This, >> according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, >> forming a "link of communication" between humanity and God. "It will blaze >> in notoriety ...". "It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all >> kindreds and tongues of the truth."[7] >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7> >> >> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:12:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> But you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is. >> You cannot even say Christianity, referencing a city in China to refer to >> such, and also just as obviously, you apparently don't understand "Zionism" >> because Zionist are only Jews! >> >> You should get a nice refreshing cup of "Wake The Hell Up" Plain Ol'! >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:41 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? >> --- >> not jews ... zionists. >> >> your approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? >> --- >> unlike the jews and xians, I don't give aid and support to illegals and >> would deport them asap by any means necessary. >> your approval of giving weapons to zionists says tons about your >> patriotism. >> >> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:54:18 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Okay, I re-read your initial post: >> >> >> >> *Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And >> Extorting Migrants---chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and >> zionists are making from weapons sales.* >> >> >> You compared Mexican gangs making up to $250 mil. annually by abusing and >> extorting illegal aliens in this Nation, and somehow justifying this act >> and comparing it to what you term "chump change to warmongering neocons" >> and Jews selling weapons. >> >> What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? Or your >> approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:51 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Your advocating for Mexican gangs to continue shipping illegal immigrants >> to the United States, >> --- >> your reading comprehension deficiency has been noted again. >> >> or your hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? >> --- >> only those who sell to warmongers. >> >> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:11:58 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> And this comment has to do with what? Your advocating for Mexican gangs >> to continue shipping illegal immigrants to the United States, or your >> hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And >> Extorting Migrants >> --- >> chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and zionists are >> making from weapons sales. >> >> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Harold posted: "Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, >> Reuters10/12/2014Source ..... Tens of thousands of Central American >> migrants are being kidnapped, abused and extorted by Mexican gangs just >> yards from the United States in a growing racket that may be worth up to >> $25" Respond to this post by replying above this line >> >> New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"* >> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> Mexican Gangs Could Be >> Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And Extorting Migrants >> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/03-1510/> by Harold >> <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> >> >> Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, Reuters 10/12/2014 Source ..... >> Tens of thousands of Central American migrants are being kidnapped, abused >> and extorted by Mexican gangs just yards from the United States in a >> growing racket that may be worth up to $250 million a year. 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