Christian Zionists—and their most ardently supported organization, “Christians United for Israel”—have once again proved that no matter how slavishly they try and ingratiate themselves with Jewish Supremacists, their overlords will always ultimately object to non-Jews having any say in Jewish matters.
The latest example has come with Jewish reaction to a new Christians United for Israel (CUFI) project designed to fund and promote a mass exodus of Jews from various countries to Israel. [image: HAARETZ-RAW-NERVE] While the Christian Zionists believe that they are thereby helping to fulfill some biblical prophecy, and at the same time supporting the Jews-only state of Israel, Jewish Supremacist reaction to the plan has been mixed, to say the least. According to an article in Israel’s largest newspaper, <http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.621615>*Haaretz <http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.621615>,* the “Christian Evangelicals’ mass aliyah push [has] touched [a] Jewish nerve” and has “set off a furious controversy on multiple levels.” *Haaretz* explained: *The group’s plan has set off a furious controversy on multiple levels. The pushback ranges from turf-oriented objections by the Jewish Agency for Israel, the Zionist movement’s longtime vehicle for promoting and implementing aliyah, to broader concerns about the ideological and even theological implications of the Christian group’s move.* *“There’s a certain irony here when you see Christian evangelicals working to move Jews out of their countries, which is very different from the ideology that says Jews should live everywhere,” said Jonathan Sarna, a professor of American history at Brandeis University.* *He noted that by moving full force into the field of aliyah, the Fellowship and its Christian backers are, in fact, taking the side of “traditional Zionists” who believe in promoting immigration of Jews to Israel, as opposed to the ideology of many American Jewish groups that believe in helping Jews live full and safe lives in their countries of residence. “But, in any case, we’re lucky to have money on both sides of this debate,” Sarna added.* The plan, announced by the “International Fellowship of Christians and Jews” was originally launched in a project “headed by Israel’s former top official dealing with the issue, and backed by millions of dollars collected from American evangelical Christians,” *Haaretz* continued, adding: *The Fellowship’s new move to set up its own aliyah operation will confront once again the sense of discomfort some Jews feel about the direct involvement of evangelicals in an operation that aims not just to help Jews in need, but also to fulfill the conditions many evangelicals see as a prerequisite for the second coming of Christ.* The ridiculousness of the situation has come about simply because Christian Zionists have been completely blinded to the nature of the ideological entity with which they have become entangled. They ignore—or dismiss—the numerous examples of open hatred towards Christ <http://davidduke.com/jesus-garbage-hate-attacks-israel-covered-jewish-supremacist-media/>, Christians and non-Jews in general <http://davidduke.com/death-to-christians-and-price-tag-attacks-in-israel/>, expressed by Jewish Supremacists both within and outside Israel. <http://davidduke.com/the-roots-of-jewish-supremacism/> Furthermore, the Christian Zionists also fail to understand that they are simply being manipulated by Jewish Supremacists under the guise of religion. Few of the one million supporters of CUFI know, for example that the executive director of that organization is not even a Christian, but actually an active Jewish Supremacist named David Brog. <http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_executive_board> [image: CUFI-WEBSITE] Prior to taking up his wire-pulling role at CUFI, Brog worked as chief of staff to Senator Arlen Specter, and staff director of the Senate Judiciary Committee. In 2007, the *Forward* newspaper listed Brog in its “Forward 50″ most influential Jews in America. In other words, the Christian Zionists are damned if they do, and damned if they do not. On the one hand, they appear to believe that they are doing God’s will by promoting Zionism and the return of Jews to Israel. The CUFI website even has a section called “The Israel Pledge <http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer>” which reads in part as follows: *We believe that the Jewish people have a right to live in their ancient land of Israel, and that the modern State of Israel is the fulfillment of this historic right.* [image: CUFI-ISRAEL-PLEDGE] But, at the same time, as evidenced in the *Haaretz* report, many Jews interpret Christians supporting other Jews in moving to Israel as having some sinister connotation—as if those Christians want to get rid of Jews to fulfil a biblical prophecy! On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:12:53 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > No Plain Ol'; as I documented back in the middle of August, 2014, the > definition of Christian Zionism contained within Wikipedia was limited to > this one paragraph, (which has also been expanded) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism > > Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel > is a prerequisite for the Second Coming > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is > primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian > Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The > idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of > Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged > to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been > common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many > Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the > chosen > people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with > the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> > and dual-covenant theology > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > You and your pal Chaz Hagee > --- > have nothing in common. > > At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that > fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and > it's flat out ridiculous! > --- > oh, so it's more history revision because you don't acknowledge the fact > that zionist christians believe that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>? > too bad. > > > On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:39:17 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Hey Plain Ol'! > > You and your pal Chaz Hagee should (and will!) sit around in the Tennessee > Hills and chit-chat about the movement then Plain Ol'. Ya'll two are > similar in an number of different respects. > > At least I have documented the very moment when folks like you (And that > fat pussle gutted ignoramus Chaz Hagee) were able to redefine the term, and > it's flat out ridiculous! Moreover, most Christian Americans see through > such horse hockey, and know the real reasoning for such an > attack........The old adage, "Keep your right hand busy, and never let them > see what you are doing with your left hand" comes to mind..... > > But go ahead and think that in Christian Churches across the Nation, we're > all sitting around planning our great move to the Israeli desert! > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism" > --- > your ignorance has been noted again. > > *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism began > to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian Restorationism* > .[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> > > Hippolytus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippolytus_of_Rome>[3] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-hippol-3> and > Irenaeus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus>[4] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-iren-4> foresaw > a Jewish return from exile, despite unbelief. Traditional Catholic > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic> thought however > did not consider Zionism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism> in any > form;[5] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-Regina_Sharif_1983.2C_page_10-5> > > Christian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian> advocacy of the > restoration of the Jews arose following the Protestant Reformation > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation>. A contemporary > Israeli historian suggests that evangelical Christian Zionists of the 1840s > 'passed this notion on to Jewish circles'.[6] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-shapira-6> > > Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel > is a prerequisite for the Second Coming > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is > primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian > Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The > idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of > Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged > to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been > common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many > Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the > chosen > people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with > the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See [Romans 11:17-24] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> > and dual-covenant theology > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism > > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:07:11 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > As we have discussed the last month, this definition that you posted was > re-defined back in August. I posted the original definition that was from > Wiki in mid-August, and the definition was changed like a week later. > This, after your pal, Charles Hagee started this nonsense. > > There really isn't such a thing as "Christian Zionism"; total bull > hockey, and you know it Plain Ol'. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is.you > apparently don't understand "Zionism" because Zionist are only Jews! > --- > your ignorance has been noted again > *Christian Zionism* is a belief among some Christians > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> that the return of the Jews > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew> to the Holy Land > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land>, and the establishment of the State > of Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel> in 1948, is in accordance > with Biblical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible> prophecy > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy>. The term Christian Zionism began > to be used in the mid-20th century, superseding *Christian Restorationism* > .[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-1>[2] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-2> > Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel > is a prerequisite for the Second Coming > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming> of Jesus. This belief is > primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian > Dispensationalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism>. The > idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of > Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged > to become Christian, as a means of fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been > common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7>[8] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-8>[9] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-9> Many > Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the > chosen > people <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people> of God, along with > the "ingrafted" Gentile Christians. (See[Romans 11:17-24] > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+11%3A17-24&version=ESV> > and dual-covenant theology > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-covenant_theology>.) > > In 1818, President John Adams <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams> > wrote, > "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation", and believed > that they would gradually become Unitarian Christians.[29] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-29> > In 1844, George Bush > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bush_(Biblical_scholar)>, a > professor of Hebrew at New York University > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University> and the cousin of an > ancestor of the Presidents Bush, published a book titled *The Valley of > Vision; or, The Dry Bones of Israel Revived*. In it he denounced "the > thralldom and oppression which has so long ground them (the Jews) to the > dust," and called for "elevating" the Jews "to a rank of honorable repute > among the nations of the earth" by allowing restoring the Jews to the land > of Israel where the bulk would be converted to Christianity > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_the_Jews>.[30] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-30> This, > according to Bush, would benefit not only the Jews, but all of mankind, > forming a "link of communication" between humanity and God. "It will blaze > in notoriety ...". "It will flash a splendid demonstration upon all > kindreds and tongues of the truth."[7] > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#cite_note-com-mag-7> > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:12:57 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > But you clearly don't have a grasp on what Judaism or Christianity is. > You cannot even say Christianity, referencing a city in China to refer to > such, and also just as obviously, you apparently don't understand "Zionism" > because Zionist are only Jews! > > You should get a nice refreshing cup of "Wake The Hell Up" Plain Ol'! > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:41 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? > --- > not jews ... zionists. > > your approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? > --- > unlike the jews and xians, I don't give aid and support to illegals and > would deport them asap by any means necessary. > your approval of giving weapons to zionists says tons about your > patriotism. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:54:18 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Okay, I re-read your initial post: > > > > *Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And > Extorting Migrants---chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and > zionists are making from weapons sales.* > > > You compared Mexican gangs making up to $250 mil. annually by abusing and > extorting illegal aliens in this Nation, and somehow justifying this act > and comparing it to what you term "chump change to warmongering neocons" > and Jews selling weapons. > > What is it that I am misunderstanding? Your hatred for Jews? Or your > approval of illegal immigration and those who profit from it? > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:51 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Your advocating for Mexican gangs to continue shipping illegal immigrants > to the United States, > --- > your reading comprehension deficiency has been noted again. > > or your hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? > --- > only those who sell to warmongers. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:11:58 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > And this comment has to do with what? Your advocating for Mexican gangs > to continue shipping illegal immigrants to the United States, or your > hatred of American companies who manufacture weaponry? > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:40 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Mexican Gangs Could Be Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And > Extorting Migrants > --- > chump change compared to what warmongering neocons and zionists are making > from weapons sales. > > On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:56:35 AM UTC-5, Travis wrote: > > > > > Harold posted: "Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, > Reuters10/12/2014Source ..... Tens of thousands of Central American > migrants are being kidnapped, abused and extorted by Mexican gangs just > yards from the United States in a growing racket that may be worth up to > $25" Respond to this post by replying above this line > > New post on *ACGR's "News with Attitude"* > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> Mexican Gangs Could Be > Making Up To $250 Million A Year By Abusing And Extorting Migrants > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/03-1510/> by Harold > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/> > > Gabriel Stargardter and Simon Gardner, Reuters 10/12/2014 Source ..... > Tens of thousands of Central American migrants are being kidnapped, abused > and extorted by Mexican gangs just yards from the United States in a > growing racket that may be worth up to $250 million a year. Arriving in > ragtag border towns like Reynosa, Mexico's migrant kidnapping […] > > Read more of this post <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/03-1510/> > *Harold <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/author/amcogore/>* | October 14, > 2014 at 7:55 am | Categories: Amnesty > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=169743>, Anchor Babies > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=574938>, Border Patrol > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=166727>, Corruption > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=22388>, Criminal Activity > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=398859>, DHS > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=418542>, Drug Cartels > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=1568490>, Executive > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=53796>, Gang Violence > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=702415>, Government > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=2311>, Human Smuggling > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=323499>, Illegal Aliens > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=101485>, Legislative > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=217843>, Mexican Government > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=494317>, Progressives > <http://a4cgr.wordpress.com/?cat=182563>, <a style="color:rgb(37 > > ... -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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