"....lower sal In a message dated 11/30/2015 12:14:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Are Private Schools Really Better? But even after you control for SES, Catholic schools run by holy orders (not those overseen by the local bishop) turned out to perform better than other schools studied. http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670063,00.html On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) "Iin the first set of analyses, all private schools were compared to all public schools. The average private school mean reading score was 14.7 points higher than the average public school...." https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/2006461.asp On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: Is the “Catholic School Effect” Real? New Research Challenges the Catholic Primary School Advantage Raw scores tell us the average test scores and require no statistical manipulation. To determine the relationship between students who go to Catholic schools and those who go to public schools, we can simply subtract the average scores. In this case, they told us that Catholic schools produce higher test scores. http://ciep.hunter.cuny.edu/catholicschools/ On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: Department of Education: Catholic Schools Beat Public Schools In the most recent round of National Assessment of Educational Progress tests, which are administered by the U.S. Department of Education, the winners were indeed indisputable. Catholic schools thrashed public schools. It wasn't close. http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/department-education-catholic-scho ols-beat-public-schools On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Travis <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: I attended Little Rock public schools in the 1950's when they were recognized nationally as an excellent system. Today I would not allow any children I had to even pay on the playground of the elementary school I attended for fear of contamination. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: I will say that in the 60s and early 70s, when I went to Catholic school, we were more advanced than the Public Schools ... we moved after 8th grade and I went to Public school for High School and was more advanced in most subjects than my new peers ... I have been told that the trend has reversed and the Public schools are better than Catholic, these days, but I have now way of proving or disproving it!!!! On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: The Catholic schools are far superior to public schools --- LANSING -- Sending children to Catholic school instead of public schools appears to have no benefits for student performance by eighth grade, according to a new study from a Michigan State University economist. "Across many outcomes, both academic and behavioral, we don't find anything that seems to point to a real benefit of Catholic schools over public schools," Todd Elder, MSU associate professor of economics, _said about his research_ (http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-gives-catholic-schools-poor-marks/) published in the Journal of Urban Economics. Elder's findings are based on test scores for students in kindergarten through eighth grade, and show that the more than two million students in Catholic schools across the nation do not perform better than their public school counterparts. The results show that Catholic school students did not show a measurable increase in reading scores compared to public school students in the test group, and math scores dropped for Catholic students while scores for public students increased. The study analyzed data on about 7,000 students who participated in the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study: Kindergarten Class of 1998-99, according to an MSU news release. The students were tested in kindergarten and first, third, fifth and eighth grades to gauge their performance. Elder said the findings could be attributed to kindergarten students entering Catholic school being more prepared than their public counterparts, and lower salaries for Catholic school teachers could be to blame for the lower performance. "Some people say Catholic schools are doing more with less," Elder said in the release. "But these findings suggest they're not doing more with less -- that they may, in fact, be doing less with less." The study also examined behavior issues and attendance rates and found "no significant benefit" to enrolling students in Catholic schools, Elder said. On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 11:53:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote: What is this man doing? Calling for the shut down of the best school system in the USA. The Catholic schools are far superior to public schools and this man should know that. He is trying to dumb down America and does all that he can to weaken this country and Western Civilization. Can not think of one thing he has done to strengthen America and Hillary is on the same page with him. In a message dated 11/30/2015 8:56:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The Catholic School I went to closed, last class only had 8 kids ... less people are going to church as the US becomes more secular!!! On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: Obama Calls for an End to Catholic Schools Posted on _November 30, 2015_ (http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/) by _V2A_ (http://visiontoamerica.com/author/kent/) This was part of his official prepared remarks which are now available on the White House website: “…Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it. If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division. It discourages cooperation.” I would argue this is actually even worse than it seems at first glance. After all, under Obama we have seen the rise of a toxic government culture where unelected bureaucrats feel enabled to target and harass American citizens whose political views differ from their own. 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