On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 7:22:53 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote: > > Catholic schools run by holy orders (not those overseen by the local > bishop) turned out to perform better than other schools studied. > --- > yeah ... and the priests get to fuck the little boys. > > > On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 2:14:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Are Private Schools Really Better? >> >> But even after you control for SES, Catholic schools run by holy orders >> (not those overseen by the local bishop) turned out to perform better than >> other schools studied. >> >> http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670063,00.html >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) >>> >>> "Iin the first set of analyses, all private schools were compared to >>> all public schools. The average private school mean reading score was 14.7 >>> points higher than the average public school...." >>> >>> https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/2006461.asp >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is the “Catholic School Effect” Real? New Research Challenges the >>>> Catholic Primary School Advantage >>>> >>>> *Raw scores* tell us the average test scores and require no >>>> statistical manipulation. To determine the relationship between students >>>> who go to Catholic schools and those who go to public schools, we can >>>> simply subtract the average scores. In this case, they told us that >>>> Catholic schools produce higher test scores. >>>> >>>> http://ciep.hunter.cuny.edu/catholicschools/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Department of Education: Catholic Schools Beat Public Schools >>>>> In the most recent round of National Assessment of Educational >>>>> Progress tests, which are administered by the U.S. Department of >>>>> Education, >>>>> the winners were indeed indisputable. Catholic schools thrashed public >>>>> schools. >>>>> >>>>> It wasn't close. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/department-education-catholic-schools-beat-public-schools >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I attended Little Rock public schools in the 1950's when they were >>>>>> recognized nationally as an excellent system. Today I would not allow >>>>>> any >>>>>> children I had to even pay on the playground of the elementary school I >>>>>> attended for fear of contamination. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I will say that in the 60s and early 70s, when I went to Catholic >>>>>>> school, we were more advanced than the Public Schools ... we moved >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> 8th grade and I went to Public school for High School and was more >>>>>>> advanced >>>>>>> in most subjects than my new peers ... I have been told that the trend >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> reversed and the Public schools are better than Catholic, these days, >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> have now way of proving or disproving it!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Catholic schools are far superior to public schools >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LANSING -- Sending children to Catholic school instead of public >>>>>>>> schools appears to have no benefits for student performance by eighth >>>>>>>> grade, according to a new study from a Michigan State University >>>>>>>> economist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Across many outcomes, both academic and behavioral, we don't find >>>>>>>> anything that seems to point to a real benefit of Catholic schools >>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>> public schools," Todd Elder, MSU associate professor of economics, >>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>> about his research >>>>>>>> <http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-gives-catholic-schools-poor-marks/>published >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in the Journal of Urban Economics. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Elder's findings are based on test scores for students in >>>>>>>> kindergarten through eighth grade, and show that the more than two >>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>> students in Catholic schools across the nation do not perform better >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> their public school counterparts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The results show that Catholic school students did not show a >>>>>>>> measurable increase in reading scores compared to public school >>>>>>>> students in >>>>>>>> the test group, and math scores dropped for Catholic students while >>>>>>>> scores >>>>>>>> for public students increased. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The study analyzed data on about 7,000 students who participated in >>>>>>>> the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study: Kindergarten Class of 1998-99, >>>>>>>> according to an MSU news release. The students were tested in >>>>>>>> kindergarten >>>>>>>> and first, third, fifth and eighth grades to gauge their performance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Elder said the findings could be attributed to kindergarten >>>>>>>> students entering Catholic school being more prepared than their >>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>> counterparts, and lower salaries for Catholic school teachers could be >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> blame for the lower performance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Some people say Catholic schools are doing more with less," Elder >>>>>>>> said in the release. "But these findings suggest they're not doing >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> with less -- that they may, in fact, be doing less with less." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The study also examined behavior issues and attendance rates and >>>>>>>> found "no significant benefit" to enrolling students in Catholic >>>>>>>> schools, >>>>>>>> Elder said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 11:53:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is this man doing? Calling for the shut down of the best >>>>>>>>> school system in the USA. The Catholic schools are far superior to >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> schools and this man should know that. He is trying to dumb down >>>>>>>>> America >>>>>>>>> and does all that he can to weaken this country and Western >>>>>>>>> Civilization. >>>>>>>>> Can not think of one thing he has done to strengthen America and >>>>>>>>> Hillary is >>>>>>>>> on the same page with him. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/30/2015 8:56:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>>>>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Catholic School I went to closed, last class only had 8 kids >>>>>>>>> ... less people are going to church as the US becomes more secular!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Travis <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Obama Calls for an End to Catholic Schools* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Posted on November 30, 2015 >>>>>>>>>> <http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> by V2A <http://visiontoamerica.com/author/kent/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This was part of his official prepared remarks which are now >>>>>>>>>> available on the White House website: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> “…Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of >>>>>>>>>> jobs and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of pride >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> some and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; >>>>>>>>>> they’re >>>>>>>>>> essential to it. If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their >>>>>>>>>> schools >>>>>>>>>> and buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see >>>>>>>>>> ourselves in >>>>>>>>>> one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that >>>>>>>>>> encourages >>>>>>>>>> division. It discourages cooperation.” >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would argue this is actually even worse than it seems at first >>>>>>>>>> glance. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After all, under Obama we have seen the rise of a toxic >>>>>>>>>> government culture where unelected bureaucrats feel enabled to >>>>>>>>>> target and >>>>>>>>>> harass American citizens whose political views differ from their >>>>>>>>>> own. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Read more at >>>>>>>>>> http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/#2xuHMG8VBDocaOd6.99 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visit Your Group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmY2FqbjRvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NDg4OTcxOTI-> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - New Members >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnMnFzamZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDQ4ODk3MTky> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZDFiN2VvBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ0ODg5NzE5Mw--] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZDFiN2VvBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ0ODg5NzE5Mw--> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> • Privacy >>>>>>>>>> <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • >>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >>>>>>>>>> <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> __,_._,___ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>> For options & help see >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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