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On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 7:25:04 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 7:22:53 PM UTC-6, plainolamerican wrote: >> >> Catholic schools run by holy orders (not those overseen by the local >> bishop) turned out to perform better than other schools studied. >> --- >> yeah ... and the priests get to fuck the little boys. >> >> >> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 2:14:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> Are Private Schools Really Better? >>> >>> But even after you control for SES, Catholic schools run by holy orders >>> (not those overseen by the local bishop) turned out to perform better than >>> other schools studied. >>> >>> http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670063,00.html >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) >>>> >>>> "Iin the first set of analyses, all private schools were compared to >>>> all public schools. The average private school mean reading score was 14.7 >>>> points higher than the average public school...." >>>> >>>> https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/2006461.asp >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is the “Catholic School Effect” Real? New Research Challenges the >>>>> Catholic Primary School Advantage >>>>> >>>>> *Raw scores* tell us the average test scores and require no >>>>> statistical manipulation. To determine the relationship between students >>>>> who go to Catholic schools and those who go to public schools, we can >>>>> simply subtract the average scores. In this case, they told us that >>>>> Catholic schools produce higher test scores. >>>>> >>>>> http://ciep.hunter.cuny.edu/catholicschools/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Department of Education: Catholic Schools Beat Public Schools >>>>>> In the most recent round of National Assessment of Educational >>>>>> Progress tests, which are administered by the U.S. Department of >>>>>> Education, >>>>>> the winners were indeed indisputable. Catholic schools thrashed public >>>>>> schools. >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn't close. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/department-education-catholic-schools-beat-public-schools >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I attended Little Rock public schools in the 1950's when they were >>>>>>> recognized nationally as an excellent system. Today I would not allow >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> children I had to even pay on the playground of the elementary school I >>>>>>> attended for fear of contamination. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will say that in the 60s and early 70s, when I went to Catholic >>>>>>>> school, we were more advanced than the Public Schools ... we moved >>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>> 8th grade and I went to Public school for High School and was more >>>>>>>> advanced >>>>>>>> in most subjects than my new peers ... I have been told that the trend >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> reversed and the Public schools are better than Catholic, these days, >>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>> have now way of proving or disproving it!!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Catholic schools are far superior to public schools >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LANSING -- Sending children to Catholic school instead of public >>>>>>>>> schools appears to have no benefits for student performance by eighth >>>>>>>>> grade, according to a new study from a Michigan State University >>>>>>>>> economist. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Across many outcomes, both academic and behavioral, we don't find >>>>>>>>> anything that seems to point to a real benefit of Catholic schools >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> public schools," Todd Elder, MSU associate professor of economics, >>>>>>>>> said >>>>>>>>> about his research >>>>>>>>> <http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-gives-catholic-schools-poor-marks/>published >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in the Journal of Urban Economics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Elder's findings are based on test scores for students in >>>>>>>>> kindergarten through eighth grade, and show that the more than two >>>>>>>>> million >>>>>>>>> students in Catholic schools across the nation do not perform better >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> their public school counterparts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The results show that Catholic school students did not show a >>>>>>>>> measurable increase in reading scores compared to public school >>>>>>>>> students in >>>>>>>>> the test group, and math scores dropped for Catholic students while >>>>>>>>> scores >>>>>>>>> for public students increased. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The study analyzed data on about 7,000 students who participated >>>>>>>>> in the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study: Kindergarten Class of >>>>>>>>> 1998-99, >>>>>>>>> according to an MSU news release. The students were tested in >>>>>>>>> kindergarten >>>>>>>>> and first, third, fifth and eighth grades to gauge their performance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Elder said the findings could be attributed to kindergarten >>>>>>>>> students entering Catholic school being more prepared than their >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> counterparts, and lower salaries for Catholic school teachers could >>>>>>>>> be to >>>>>>>>> blame for the lower performance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Some people say Catholic schools are doing more with less," Elder >>>>>>>>> said in the release. "But these findings suggest they're not doing >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> with less -- that they may, in fact, be doing less with less." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The study also examined behavior issues and attendance rates and >>>>>>>>> found "no significant benefit" to enrolling students in Catholic >>>>>>>>> schools, >>>>>>>>> Elder said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 11:53:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is this man doing? Calling for the shut down of the best >>>>>>>>>> school system in the USA. The Catholic schools are far superior to >>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>> schools and this man should know that. He is trying to dumb down >>>>>>>>>> America >>>>>>>>>> and does all that he can to weaken this country and Western >>>>>>>>>> Civilization. >>>>>>>>>> Can not think of one thing he has done to strengthen America and >>>>>>>>>> Hillary is >>>>>>>>>> on the same page with him. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/30/2015 8:56:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Catholic School I went to closed, last class only had 8 kids >>>>>>>>>> ... less people are going to church as the US becomes more secular!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Travis <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Obama Calls for an End to Catholic Schools* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Posted on November 30, 2015 >>>>>>>>>>> <http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> by V2A <http://visiontoamerica.com/author/kent/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This was part of his official prepared remarks which are now >>>>>>>>>>> available on the White House website: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> “…Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of >>>>>>>>>>> jobs and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of >>>>>>>>>>> pride for >>>>>>>>>>> some and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; >>>>>>>>>>> they’re >>>>>>>>>>> essential to it. If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their >>>>>>>>>>> schools >>>>>>>>>>> and buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see >>>>>>>>>>> ourselves in >>>>>>>>>>> one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that >>>>>>>>>>> encourages >>>>>>>>>>> division. It discourages cooperation.” >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would argue this is actually even worse than it seems at first >>>>>>>>>>> glance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After all, under Obama we have seen the rise of a toxic >>>>>>>>>>> government culture where unelected bureaucrats feel enabled to >>>>>>>>>>> target and >>>>>>>>>>> harass American citizens whose political views differ from their >>>>>>>>>>> own. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Read more at >>>>>>>>>>> http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/#2xuHMG8VBDocaOd6.99 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> __._,_.___ >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> Posted by: "Beowulf" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Visit Your Group >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmY2FqbjRvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0NDg4OTcxOTI-> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - New Members >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/grendelreport/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnMnFzamZxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDQ4ODk3MTky> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZDFiN2VvBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ0ODg5NzE5Mw--] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZDFiN2VvBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzIwMTk0ODA2BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTMyMzY2NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ0ODg5NzE5Mw--> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> • Privacy >>>>>>>>>>> <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> • >>>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >>>>>>>>>>> <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> __,_._,___ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>>> For options & help see >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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