Catholic schools run by holy orders (not those overseen by the local bishop) turned out to perform better than other schools studied. --- yeah ... and the priests get to fuck the little boys.
On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 2:14:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Are Private Schools Really Better? > > But even after you control for SES, Catholic schools run by holy orders > (not those overseen by the local bishop) turned out to perform better than > other schools studied. > > http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670063,00.html > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) >> >> "Iin the first set of analyses, all private schools were compared to all >> public schools. The average private school mean reading score was 14.7 >> points higher than the average public school...." >> >> https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pubs/studies/2006461.asp >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Is the “Catholic School Effect” Real? New Research Challenges the >>> Catholic Primary School Advantage >>> >>> *Raw scores* tell us the average test scores and require no statistical >>> manipulation. To determine the relationship between students who go to >>> Catholic schools and those who go to public schools, we can simply subtract >>> the average scores. In this case, they told us that Catholic schools >>> produce higher test scores. >>> >>> http://ciep.hunter.cuny.edu/catholicschools/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Department of Education: Catholic Schools Beat Public Schools >>>> In the most recent round of National Assessment of Educational Progress >>>> tests, which are administered by the U.S. Department of Education, the >>>> winners were indeed indisputable. Catholic schools thrashed public schools. >>>> >>>> It wasn't close. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/department-education-catholic-schools-beat-public-schools >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Travis <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I attended Little Rock public schools in the 1950's when they were >>>>> recognized nationally as an excellent system. Today I would not allow >>>>> any >>>>> children I had to even pay on the playground of the elementary school I >>>>> attended for fear of contamination. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I will say that in the 60s and early 70s, when I went to Catholic >>>>>> school, we were more advanced than the Public Schools ... we moved after >>>>>> 8th grade and I went to Public school for High School and was more >>>>>> advanced >>>>>> in most subjects than my new peers ... I have been told that the trend >>>>>> has >>>>>> reversed and the Public schools are better than Catholic, these days, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> have now way of proving or disproving it!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:21 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The Catholic schools are far superior to public schools >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LANSING -- Sending children to Catholic school instead of public >>>>>>> schools appears to have no benefits for student performance by eighth >>>>>>> grade, according to a new study from a Michigan State University >>>>>>> economist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Across many outcomes, both academic and behavioral, we don't find >>>>>>> anything that seems to point to a real benefit of Catholic schools over >>>>>>> public schools," Todd Elder, MSU associate professor of economics, said >>>>>>> about his research >>>>>>> <http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-gives-catholic-schools-poor-marks/>published >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in the Journal of Urban Economics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Elder's findings are based on test scores for students in >>>>>>> kindergarten through eighth grade, and show that the more than two >>>>>>> million >>>>>>> students in Catholic schools across the nation do not perform better >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> their public school counterparts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The results show that Catholic school students did not show a >>>>>>> measurable increase in reading scores compared to public school >>>>>>> students in >>>>>>> the test group, and math scores dropped for Catholic students while >>>>>>> scores >>>>>>> for public students increased. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The study analyzed data on about 7,000 students who participated in >>>>>>> the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study: Kindergarten Class of 1998-99, >>>>>>> according to an MSU news release. The students were tested in >>>>>>> kindergarten >>>>>>> and first, third, fifth and eighth grades to gauge their performance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Elder said the findings could be attributed to kindergarten students >>>>>>> entering Catholic school being more prepared than their public >>>>>>> counterparts, and lower salaries for Catholic school teachers could be >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> blame for the lower performance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Some people say Catholic schools are doing more with less," Elder >>>>>>> said in the release. "But these findings suggest they're not doing more >>>>>>> with less -- that they may, in fact, be doing less with less." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The study also examined behavior issues and attendance rates and >>>>>>> found "no significant benefit" to enrolling students in Catholic >>>>>>> schools, >>>>>>> Elder said. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 11:53:01 AM UTC-6, Bill wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is this man doing? Calling for the shut down of the best >>>>>>>> school system in the USA. The Catholic schools are far superior to >>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>> schools and this man should know that. He is trying to dumb down >>>>>>>> America >>>>>>>> and does all that he can to weaken this country and Western >>>>>>>> Civilization. >>>>>>>> Can not think of one thing he has done to strengthen America and >>>>>>>> Hillary is >>>>>>>> on the same page with him. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/30/2015 8:56:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>>>>>>> [email protected] writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Catholic School I went to closed, last class only had 8 kids >>>>>>>> ... less people are going to church as the US becomes more secular!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Obama Calls for an End to Catholic Schools* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Posted on November 30, 2015 >>>>>>>>> <http://visiontoamerica.com/24879/video-obama-calls-for-an-end-to-catholic-schools/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> by V2A <http://visiontoamerica.com/author/kent/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This was part of his official prepared remarks which are now >>>>>>>>> available on the White House website: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “…Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs >>>>>>>>> and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of pride for >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; they’re >>>>>>>>> essential >>>>>>>>> to it. If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their schools and >>>>>>>>> buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see ourselves in >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages >>>>>>>>> division. 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