Keith, A Happy, Blessed and Prosperous New Year to you and yours as well. Keep fighting the good fight. Fellow warriors must finish the race.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >Good Morning Regan! > > >Always a pleasure to get the opportunity to say "Hey"! > > >I saw your post in one of these recent threads regarding "Marriage" and as >always, you were "Spot On". It influenced me in what I wrote this morning to >Brine in another thread. > > >I will get the opportunity to address everyone today or tomorrow, but here's >wishing you and your family a very prosperous, exciting, adventurous and >healthy 2016! > > > > >On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Regan Duffy <[email protected]> wrote: > >Keith, don't sweat it. This is just another case of Pluto's chronic >projection. > > >Doesn't surprise me in the least that Pluto and Plain Ol are "soul mates". > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > > > >Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > >Good Morning Pluto! > > >I am saddened that you believe I am "blinkered"....Or blinded; or refuse to >look at any other point of view. That's just not the case. Most of my >political opinions have been well formed and thought out, after much >consideration and review of the issue. I've even been known to oppose what is >generally thought of or termed a "conservative" or "Republican" position. I >try to look at issues with common sense and before I speak, I generally have >an idea of what it is that I am talking about, as opposeed to many who hold >left of center viewpoints. > > >I go back to my thesis of "Progressives: (A) Progressives/Liberals are >either uninformed or misinformed; or, (B) They are Anti-American and wish to >see our Nation become a Third World or Fourth World Nation-State. There's >really no other option or explanation. > > > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, pluto of brougham ><[email protected]> wrote: > >There is nothing wrong Keith in contemplating a better world, "Utopia" as >you'd term it, Plaino and I are irreconcilably opposed whereas guns are >concerned, nonetheless he does make several valid points in his posts, you on >the other hand, are so blinkered by your own very far right opinions that you >will not even consider anyone else's point of view. > > >On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > >Truman was in trouble and needed the NY Jewish vote ... that is the only >reason the US recognized Israel ... see he got it and won!!! > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >"Harry Truman's Jewish Problem" > >http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/harry-trumans-jewish-problem > > >A newly discovered diary of Harry S Truman indicates that the former president >may have had a strongly negative opinion of Jews. In the diary, which includes >42 entries written in 1947, Truman recounts a conversation he had with Henry >Morgenthau, the Secretary of the Treasury, who had phoned to discuss the fate >of Jewish refugees. In criticizing the approach of Morgenthau, who was Jewish, >Truman wrote in a July 21 passage, "The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. >They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks >get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get >special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political >neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to >the under dog." > >"We Can Learn a Lot From Truman the Bigot" > > >http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jul/18/opinion/oe-kuznick18 > > > >"Nixon, Truman, and FDR’s Private Thoughts About Jews" > >http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/30/nixon-truman-and-fdr%E2%80%99s-private-thoughts-about-jews/ > > >One finds a similar phenomenon with regard to several earlier presidents. A >previously unknown diary by Harry Truman, discovered in 2003, revealed that he >harbored harsh feelings about Jews. Incensed when former Treasury Secretary >Henry Morgenthau, Jr. called him about the plight of the refugee ship Exodus >in 1947, Truman wrote in his diary, “He [had] no business, whatever to call >me. The Jews have no sense of proportion nor do they have any judgment on >world affairs… The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how >many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or >mistreated as D[isplaced] P[erson]s as long as the Jews get special treatment. >Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor >Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.” > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:19 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >wrote: > >as if there was a doubt about Truman's regard for the jews and israel. > > >http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/index.php > >On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > >What is a "de Facto" recognition? > > >That's PC Talk for, "Shoulda-Woulda-Coulda" but didn't..... > > >No, Harry Truman and a number of Congressmen had serious reservations about >acknowledging the UN Created State of Israel, and it was months after the >Soviets' acknowledgement that the U.S. formally acknowledged recognition of >the UN Created Nation-State of Israel. > > > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:42 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > >UN member states > >USA - Date of de facto recognition: 14 May 1948 > > >On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 1:25:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > >The United States acknowledged Israel on 1 February 1949. Russia, on the >other hand, acknowledged Israel on 17 May 1948: > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > >Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel. As a matter of fact, >we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel. It was the United >Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of Israel. > >--- > >your ignorance of history astounds me. > > >The agreement, which occurred when it appeared that Germany was winning WW I, >was that Zionists would work to get the United States involved in the war if >Britain would deliver Palestine as a Jewish homeland. The reason for the >American involvement in the war and the American contribution to the >arrangement have not been widely understood: the Balfour Declaration (as well >as the later British Mandate) were drafted in both Britain and the US, >including by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. > >Germany had no inkling of this deal until the post-war 1919 Paris Peace >Conference, which Zionists attended to ensure that Britain would come through >with its part of the agreement. > >Even before Britain washed its hands of Palestine, Zionists recognized that >they needed the support of the United States for Israel to survive and thrive, >so the U.S. became the focus of propaganda and political pressure. Harry >Truman, the US President who recognized the State of Israel immediately after >it declared itself a state, had received a then-staggering $2 million from a >Zionist donor during what had appeared to be a losing presidential campaign. >State Department leaders were against supporting Israel because it damaged >U.S. relations with Arab countries and, more importantly, violated important >American principles of self-determination and justice. Elected leaders, >vulnerable to political pressure and access to campaign funding, were not able >to maintain such America-first integrity. > >Weir documented various little-known Zionist efforts to support the creation >of their state. The activities — basically bribes, lies, subterfuge, threats >and violence– included: > > Zionist leaders’ “mixed reaction” to Nazism, with some seeing that the >convergent goals would benefit a Jewish state that required a Jewish >population; Secret American Zionist clubs (including the elite Parushim with >Felix Frankfurter) which pledged to work for Israel behind the scenes;Creating >the myth that a refuge was needed for Jews (including falsifying anti-Semitism >in Germany and Poland and, more importantly, sabotaging western countries’ >efforts to open their doors to Jewish refugees after WW II in order to ensure >that Jews had few choices of refuge outside of Israel); and Zionists’ role in >the creation of Christian Zionism and the Scofield Reference Bible. > >Weir ends her short history of Israel’s creation by documenting some key >examples of how Israel-firsters were able to destroy the careers — if not the >lives — of prominent Americans in government, journalism and academia who >warned of the loss of American credibility in supporting a state that was >based on religious discrimination. > >Weir keeps her book focused on the early history of Israel, ignoring highly >significant later events, particularly those concerning Senator William >Fulbright: his uncovering of Jewish charity fraud that recycled charitable >donations into US propaganda, his attempts, with JFK, to force the main >Zionist organization to register as an agent of a foreign government and the >loss of Fulbright’s Senate seat to the then-unheard of Dale Bumpers. > >The main messages from Weir’s history are that the Jewish community has not >legitimately needed a homeland- refuge from anti-Semitism and that Americans >must take back their country by insisting that their elected officials place >the interests of the United States before those of Israel. > > > > >A couple of points: > > >1. Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. > >--- > >true ... Israel was hijacked by zionist terrorists. > > >2. I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and Israel >should be condemned by the UN, (which they are and have been). Israel has UN >Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed. Nevertheless, until such >time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept the fact that there is, and >always will be an Israel, > >--- > >speculation noted. > > > and while Palestinians continue to perpetrate terroristic acts against >Israel, it's hard for the UN, or any one individual to muster any support for >them. > >--- > >you obviously won't recognize israel's terrorism of the palestinians ... so >discussing this issue with you is fruitless. > > >On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:09:34 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > >Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel. As a matter of fact, >we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel. It was the United >Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of Israel. > > >A couple of points: > > >1. Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. > > >2. I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and Israel >should be condemned by the UN, (which they are and have been). Israel has UN >Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed. Nevertheless, until such >time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept the fact that there is, and >always will be an Israel, and while Palestinians continue to perpetrate >terroristic acts against Israel, it's hard for the UN, or any one individual >to muster any support for them. > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:15 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > >I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology similar in >scope to Islam. > >It's just not. > >--- > >if you can't see the genocide and land theft that zionists are committing with >extorted US weapons and tax dollars then I can't help you. > >go ahead and buddy up with the zionists and be something other than American. > > >On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > >Because your premise is flawed, and you apparently are the only one individual >in the world who sees "Zionism"; e.g.; the desire to move to a Jewish >Homeland, as violent. Nothing could be further from the truth. > > >Are there repercussions from Zionism? Admittedly yes. But as you love to >sling around, "Not An American Concern". > > >I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology similar in >scope to Islam. > > >It's just not. Ridiculous. > > > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > >Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct. That Judaism is an >"ideology" similar in scope to Islam. I vehemently disagree with that, and >could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all comparable, and >that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology as does Islam, let's >go with your point as accurate and truthful. > > >How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown up this >week? This past year? Over the last fifteen years? > >--- > >I'm not comparing judaism to isalm. I'm comparing zionism to islam ... the >same way I would compare zionist xianity to both islam and judaic zionism. > >They're the most violent, warmongering people on the planet and the enemy of >the USA. > > >and just because you don't see their bigotry and 'interventionism' as >terrorism doesn't mean it's not. > > > >On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 8:27:25 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > >Good Morning Plain Ol'! > > >Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct. That Judaism is an >"ideology" similar in scope to Islam. I vehemently disagree with that, and >could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all comparable, and >that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology as does Islam, let's >go with your point as accurate and truthful. > > >How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown up this >week? This past year? Over the last fifteen years? > > >On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:23 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > law enforcement should arrest them all for being traitors/enemies of the >state!!! > >--- > >they should also arrest these traitors/enemies of the state > > > >On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-6, brine wrote: > >Honestly I see nothing but material/flags but can not identify them from the >photo ... if they are in fact ISIS fags, law enforcement should arrest them >all for being traitors/enemies of the state!!! > > >On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >-- >-- >Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >* It's active and moderated. 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