The United States acknowledged Israel on 1 February 1949. Russia, on the other hand, acknowledged Israel on 17 May 1948:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel. As a matter of > fact, we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel. It was > the United Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of Israel. > --- > your ignorance of history astounds me. > > The agreement, which occurred when it appeared that Germany was winning WW > I, was that Zionists would work to get the United States involved in the > war if Britain would deliver Palestine as a Jewish homeland. The reason > for the American involvement in the war and the American contribution to > the arrangement have not been widely understood: the Balfour Declaration > (as well as the later British Mandate) were drafted in both Britain and the > US, including by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. > > Germany had no inkling of this deal until the post-war 1919 Paris Peace > Conference, which Zionists attended to ensure that Britain would come > through with its part of the agreement. > > Even before Britain washed its hands of Palestine, Zionists recognized > that they needed the support of the United States for Israel to survive and > thrive, so the U.S. became the focus of propaganda and political pressure. > Harry Truman, the US President who recognized the State of Israel > immediately after it declared itself a state, had received a > then-staggering $2 million from a Zionist donor during what had appeared to > be a losing presidential campaign. State Department leaders were against > supporting Israel because it damaged U.S. relations with Arab countries > and, more importantly, violated important American principles of > self-determination and justice. Elected leaders, vulnerable to political > pressure and access to campaign funding, were not able to maintain such > America-first integrity. > > Weir documented various little-known Zionist efforts to support the > creation of their state. The activities — basically bribes, lies, > subterfuge, threats and violence– included: > > - Zionist leaders’ “mixed reaction” to Nazism, with some seeing that > the convergent goals would benefit a Jewish state that required a Jewish > population; > > > - Secret American Zionist clubs (including the elite Parushim with > Felix Frankfurter) which pledged to work for Israel behind the scenes; > > > - Creating the myth that a refuge was needed for Jews (including > falsifying anti-Semitism in Germany and Poland and, more importantly, > sabotaging western countries’ efforts to open their doors to Jewish > refugees after WW II in order to ensure that Jews had few choices of refuge > outside of Israel); and > > > - Zionists’ role in the creation of Christian Zionism and the > Scofield Reference Bible. > > Weir ends her short history of Israel’s creation by documenting some key > examples of how Israel-firsters were able to destroy the careers — if not > the lives — of prominent Americans in government, journalism and academia > who warned of the loss of American credibility in supporting a state that > was based on religious discrimination. > > Weir keeps her book focused on the early history of Israel, ignoring > highly significant later events, particularly those concerning Senator > William Fulbright: his uncovering of Jewish charity fraud that recycled > charitable donations into US propaganda, his attempts, with JFK, to force > the main Zionist organization to register as an agent of a foreign > government and the loss of Fulbright’s Senate seat to the then-unheard of > Dale Bumpers. > > The main messages from Weir’s history are that the Jewish community has > not legitimately needed a homeland- refuge from anti-Semitism and that > Americans must take back their country by insisting that their elected > officials place the interests of the United States before those of Israel. > > > A couple of points: > > 1. Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. > --- > true ... Israel was hijacked by zionist terrorists. > > 2. I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and > Israel should be condemned by the UN, (which they are and have been). > Israel has UN Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed. > Nevertheless, until such time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept the > fact that there is, and always will be an Israel, > --- > speculation noted. > > and while Palestinians continue to perpetrate terroristic acts against > Israel, it's hard for the UN, or any one individual to muster any support > for them. > --- > you obviously won't recognize israel's terrorism of the palestinians ... > so discussing this issue with you is fruitless. > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:09:34 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel. As a matter of >> fact, we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel. It was >> the United Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of Israel. >> >> >> A couple of points: >> >> 1. Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. >> >> 2. I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and >> Israel should be condemned by the UN, (which they are and have been). >> Israel has UN Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed. >> Nevertheless, until such time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept the >> fact that there is, and always will be an Israel, and while Palestinians >> continue to perpetrate terroristic acts against Israel, it's hard for the >> UN, or any one individual to muster any support for them. >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:15 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology >>> similar in scope to Islam. >>> It's just not. >>> --- >>> if you can't see the genocide and land theft that zionists are >>> committing with extorted US weapons and tax dollars then I can't help you. >>> go ahead and buddy up with the zionists and be something other than >>> American. >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> Because your premise is flawed, and you apparently are the only one >>>> individual in the world who sees "Zionism"; e.g.; the desire to move to a >>>> Jewish Homeland, as violent. Nothing could be further from the truth. >>>> >>>> Are there repercussions from Zionism? Admittedly yes. But as you love >>>> to sling around, "Not An American Concern". >>>> >>>> I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology >>>> similar in scope to Islam. >>>> >>>> It's just not. Ridiculous. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct. That Judaism >>>>> is an "ideology" similar in scope to Islam. I vehemently disagree with >>>>> that, and could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all >>>>> comparable, and that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology as >>>>> does Islam, let's go with your point as accurate and truthful. >>>>> >>>>> How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown >>>>> up this week? This past year? Over the last fifteen years? >>>>> --- >>>>> I'm not comparing judaism to isalm. I'm comparing zionism to islam ... >>>>> the same way I would compare zionist xianity to both islam and judaic >>>>> zionism. >>>>> They're the most violent, warmongering people on the planet and the >>>>> enemy of the USA. >>>>> >>>>> and just because you don't see their bigotry and 'interventionism' as >>>>> terrorism doesn't mean it's not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 8:27:25 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Morning Plain Ol'! >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct. That >>>>>> Judaism is an "ideology" similar in scope to Islam. I vehemently >>>>>> disagree >>>>>> with that, and could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all >>>>>> comparable, and that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology >>>>>> as >>>>>> does Islam, let's go with your point as accurate and truthful. >>>>>> >>>>>> How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown >>>>>> up this week? This past year? Over the last fifteen years? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:23 AM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> law enforcement should arrest them all for being traitors/enemies >>>>>>> of the state!!! >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> they should also arrest these traitors/enemies of the state >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-6, brine wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Honestly I see nothing but material/flags but can not identify them >>>>>>>> from the photo ... if they are in fact ISIS fags, law enforcement >>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> arrest them all for being traitors/enemies of the state!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>> For options & help see >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "PoliticalForum" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> brine >>>>>>>> http://brineb.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "PoliticalForum" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>> >>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "PoliticalForum" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "PoliticalForum" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "PoliticalForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PoliticalForum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
