No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays. --- stop lying ... I said equal rights.
Mark me in the "opposed" category. -- how do you so readily admit your bigotry? my guess is your religious beliefs. Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one. --- nice try ... lawyer boy ... I pointed out that she was jailed for persecuting lgbt's and then disobeying a direct order from the court. How can you be a lawyer and not honor the court decision? You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that you have slung against this Christian woman! Shame on you! --- take your shame and stick it up your jewish god's asshole. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 3:17:44 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays. Mark me in the > "opposed" category. > > Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one. > > You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that you > have slung against this Christian woman! Shame on you! > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") persecute >> Gays? >> --- >> she refused to issue them marriage licenses ... but you know that. >> >> What is your definition of "persecute"? >> --- >> denying someone equal rights. >> >> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used to do >> that! What has changed you? >> --- >> seeing American rights being denied to people because of their sexuality. >> That change took place about 10-15 years ago and you need to catch up. >> Thank goodness you're not a civil rights attorney. >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>> >>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") persecute >>> Gays? What is your definition of "persecute"? >>> >>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used to do >>> that! What has changed you? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical hate filled >>>> extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat assed bigoted bitch" >>>> says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, vehemence, and lies. >>>> --- >>>> she persecuted gays and then disobeyed the courts .... so they sent her >>>> fat bigoted ass to jail with a warning that if she refused to issue >>>> marriage licenses she would be jailed again. >>>> >>>> it's you're klan that persecutes people because of your mythical >>>> religious beliefs and your klan that will end up in court and/or jail for >>>> persecution and bigotry. >>>> open your heart or open your wallet ... lawyer boy. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> LOL! Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical hate >>>>> filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat assed bigoted >>>>> bitch" says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, vehemence, >>>>> and >>>>> lies. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly >>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> does the name kim davis ring a bell? >>>>>> that fat ass bigoted bitch was sent to jail for persecuting lgbt's. >>>>>> >>>>>> You will have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out >>>>>> Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate Christians and >>>>>> go >>>>>> on the attack against them! >>>>>> --- >>>>>> defend yourself at all times. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the breakdown of >>>>>> the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in these people's >>>>>> lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and terroristic >>>>>> rampages. >>>>>> --- >>>>>> lack of xianity? >>>>>> nobody kills more people than religious myth believing abrahamics. >>>>>> >>>>>> the good news! >>>>>> world-wide, humans are becoming less religious. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly >>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders. You >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out Atheists, >>>>>>> Agnostics, >>>>>>> and left of center elitists who hate Christians and go on the attack >>>>>>> against them! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the breakdown >>>>>>> of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in these >>>>>>> people's >>>>>>> lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and terroristic >>>>>>> rampages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Harper Mercer; >>>>>>> Floyd Lee Corkins; >>>>>>> Amy Bishop; >>>>>>> Andrew J. Stack, >>>>>>> James J. Lee; >>>>>>> Craig Stephen Hicks; >>>>>>> Adam Lanza, >>>>>>> Jared Laughner, >>>>>>> Seung-hui Cho, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to name a few..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016? >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> we should jail as many as it takes to insure equal protection to >>>>>>>> lgbt's and other minority groups from xian persecution. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Posted By *Greg Corombos* On 12/25/2015 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The year 2015 witnessed a Supreme Court decision ruling there was >>>>>>>>> a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, a federal judge jailing >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> county clerk for refusing to issue licenses to gay couples and the >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> explosion of the transgender movement, but one of the key figures in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> culture wars says 2016 could well be a year of Americans pushing back >>>>>>>>> against the liberal agenda. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In June, years worth of political and legal battles found their >>>>>>>>> way to the Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision authored by Justice >>>>>>>>> Anthony >>>>>>>>> Kennedy, the court ruled that the equal protections offered in the >>>>>>>>> Constitution ought to establish a right to same-sex marriage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The decision was not surprising given previous rulings by the same >>>>>>>>> justices, but Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver told WND and >>>>>>>>> Radio >>>>>>>>> America it was disgraceful nonetheless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Frankly, I don’t think it deserves any respect as the rule of >>>>>>>>> law,” Staver said. “It’s just the opinion of five justices. However, >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> people are playing the games of masquerade and assuming this is what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Constitution says. That will have a culture-changing impact at every >>>>>>>>> level.” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Although he refuses to honor the court ruling, Staver knows it is >>>>>>>>> a huge moment in the battle over American morality. He said the >>>>>>>>> nation has >>>>>>>>> arrived at a major cultural crossroads. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “This is a culture clash of unprecedented proportions that we’ve >>>>>>>>> now entered into. This will continue as we move into the new year,” >>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>> said. “It’s going to come up in every conceivable context private >>>>>>>>> schools, >>>>>>>>> churches, universities, colleges, you name it. Every institution, >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> person of faith will have to address this issue.” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver would know. Weeks after the Supreme Court decision, >>>>>>>>> he became counsel for Kim Davis, the clerk for Rowan County, >>>>>>>>> Kentucky. >>>>>>>>> Davis, a born-again Christian, refused to issue marriage licenses to >>>>>>>>> homosexual couples, citing her freedom of conscience and free >>>>>>>>> religious >>>>>>>>> expression. The federal courts disagreed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “Two months after this 5-4 opinion, the first Christian went to >>>>>>>>> jail for her sincerely held religious beliefs,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>> “Although she >>>>>>>>> was the first, she certainly won’t be the last. It will not involve >>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>> public employees or public elected officials but certainly the >>>>>>>>> private >>>>>>>>> sector as well.” >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver said the entire Davis saga could easily have been avoided, >>>>>>>>> but the Democratic governor refused to take action to protect the >>>>>>>>> rights of >>>>>>>>> conscience. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “There was no accommodation that was given by the former governor, >>>>>>>>> Steven Beshear, who is no longer in office. He refused to accommodate >>>>>>>>> her >>>>>>>>> so she made her own accommodation. When she returned to work, she >>>>>>>>> refused >>>>>>>>> to violate her conscience, so she removed her name and title from the >>>>>>>>> license,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Mathew Staver:* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beshear was replaced by tea-party Republican Matt Bevin, who >>>>>>>>> scored a large upset victory over Democrat Jack Conway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "He became elected, in large part, because of the marriage issue >>>>>>>>> and Kim Davis," Staver said. "He took the side of natural marriage >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> supports Kim Davis. He's now been sworn into office, and he's already >>>>>>>>> [issued] an executive order to protect the religious freedom of Kim >>>>>>>>> Davis >>>>>>>>> and other clerks like her." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec. 23, Bevin ordered the removal of clerks' names from >>>>>>>>> marriage licenses throughout the commonwealth, the very same decision >>>>>>>>> Davis >>>>>>>>> made unilaterally earlier in the year. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver said the story of Gov. Bevin ought to be a lesson to >>>>>>>>> national candidates as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The candidates will have to address this issue. The voters will >>>>>>>>> require that they address this issue," said Staver, who believes >>>>>>>>> pushing >>>>>>>>> back is a winning issue for the GOP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "The more and more the issue of same-sex marriage and the radical, >>>>>>>>> so-called LGBT agenda moves forward, the more people will see how >>>>>>>>> intolerant it is, how coercive it is," Staver said. "Kim Davis is >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> Exhibit A in that situation. I think most people will say, 'This is >>>>>>>>> not the >>>>>>>>> kind of America we want to live in. This is not what we bargained >>>>>>>>> for,' and >>>>>>>>> they're going to push back." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver also believes the reputation of the nation's courts is in >>>>>>>>> peril. He said an upcoming ruling in high-profile abortion cases will >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> critical to how Americans view the courts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "I think it's pushing itself into the realm of illegitimacy," he >>>>>>>>> said. "I think the same-sex marriage case pushed it across the line. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> think if it goes the wrong way on the abortion or the contraception >>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>> abortion-inducing drug mandate, I think that will finish off this >>>>>>>>> court and >>>>>>>>> people will just simply say, 'We're not going to obey people who just >>>>>>>>> invent the law as they go.'" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As the gay marriage debate reached a critical moment at the >>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, the transgender movement also emerged much more >>>>>>>>> publicly in >>>>>>>>> 2015, led by Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner announcing he >>>>>>>>> identified as a woman named Caitlyn. Multiple television programs >>>>>>>>> emerged <http://dateline.radioamerica.org/?p=15655> to highlight >>>>>>>>> the stories of Jenner and others. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "It is part of their whole movement to bring out this bizarre 'I >>>>>>>>> think, therefore I am' concept," Staver said. "We always saw that in >>>>>>>>> philosophy, but now they're actually trying to make that a reality, >>>>>>>>> that if >>>>>>>>> you think you're a woman then you ought to be legally recognized and >>>>>>>>> treated as a woman? It's absolutely absurd." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver said it doesn't take a deep faith to understand the deep >>>>>>>>> flaws in embracing the movement. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "You cannot get used to something that pushes in your face and is >>>>>>>>> a direct collision with your sincerely held religious beliefs and, >>>>>>>>> frankly, >>>>>>>>> objective, observable reality," he said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Staver admits 2015 was a difficult year for cultural >>>>>>>>> conservatives, but he said there is much more reason for hope than >>>>>>>>> despair. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "We haven't even begun to see this battle," Staver said. 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