You Sir, have admitted your true self here in the last 24 hours.  Not only 
that, you have clumsily attempted to put words in my mouth and changed what 
I wrote and said.
Not even a nice try.....Clumsy!   Again, you've shown your true colors, and 
I go back to my question to you a month ago:  "*Where do you actually live?*" 
  It's hard for me to believe you are an American citizen.
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On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 10:46:37 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> You Sir, have admitted your true self here in the last 24 hours.  Not only 
> that, you have clumsily attempted to put words in my mouth and changed what 
> I wrote and said.
>
> Not even a nice try.....Clumsy!   Again, you've shown your true colors, 
> and I go back to my question to you a month ago:  "*Where do you actually 
> live?*"   It's hard for me to believe you are an American citizen.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>  The Supreme Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where 
>> now a Gay man or Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their 
>> sexual proclivities.  
>> ---
>> obey the law or pay the fine.
>>
>> This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that it 
>> allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges that 
>> I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes.
>> ---
>> poor feller ... try again. You are not being discriminated against in any 
>> way.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple of "Facts" that you are overlooking Brine;
>>>
>>> First, the week prior to Ms. Davis refusing to place her signature on a 
>>> marriage license for same sex couples; wherein the U.S. Supreme Court 
>>> unconstitutionally redefined marriage;  the Kentucky Constitution, as well 
>>> as Kentucky Code defined marriage as between one man and one woman.   This 
>>> was the law of the land;  and will of the 4.4 million Kentuckians who spoke 
>>> out on the Kentucky Constitutional Amendment.  
>>>
>>> Ms. Davis was in fact an elected Official by the Kentuckians of Rowan 
>>> County.  This, the same Kentuckians who in fact voted and vociferously were 
>>> opposed to the redefinition of marriage.  
>>>
>>> "Special Rights"  is exactly what has happened here.  Prior to the 
>>> redefinition of marriage, a Gay man or a Gay  woman was able to marry 
>>> anyone that they so chose as long as that individual was within the  5,000 
>>> + years of the tenets and definition of marriage, and; providing that the 
>>> individual who was his or her partner wanted to be married!  The Supreme 
>>> Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where now a Gay man or 
>>> Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their sexual 
>>> proclivities.  
>>>
>>> This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that 
>>> it allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges 
>>> that I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes.
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since the law of the land changed and she felt so strongly that she 
>>>> could not uphold the law, she should have quit the job ... if I am unable 
>>>> to do what my employer requires, my job is forfeit!!!
>>>>
>>>> How is it "special" to want the same rights afforded others ... why 
>>>> should a gay person have to jump through hoops and hire lawyers when a 
>>>> union granted by the state will give them all the same rights?
>>>>
>>>> The worst argument I heard against gay people getting married was by a 
>>>> woman on a board who didn't want them to collect social security ... do 
>>>> gay 
>>>> people NOT pay FICA????
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays.   Mark me in 
>>>>> the "opposed" category.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one.  
>>>>>
>>>>> You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that you 
>>>>> have slung against this Christian woman!  Shame on you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") 
>>>>>> persecute Gays?
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> she refused to issue them marriage licenses ... but you know that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your definition of "persecute"? 
>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>> denying someone equal rights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap!  You never used to 
>>>>>> do that!  What has changed you?
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> seeing American rights being denied to people because of their 
>>>>>> sexuality. That change took place about 10-15 years ago and you need to 
>>>>>> catch up. Thank goodness you're not a civil rights attorney.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") 
>>>>>>> persecute Gays?  What is your definition of "persecute"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap!  You never used 
>>>>>>> to do that!  What has changed you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kim Davis has discriminated against no one.  Your typical hate 
>>>>>>>> filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point!  "Fat assed 
>>>>>>>> bigoted 
>>>>>>>> bitch"  says it all Plain Ol'.   Continue on with your hate, 
>>>>>>>> vehemence, and 
>>>>>>>> lies.
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> she persecuted gays and then disobeyed the courts .... so they sent 
>>>>>>>> her fat bigoted ass to jail with a warning that if she refused to 
>>>>>>>> issue 
>>>>>>>> marriage licenses she would be jailed again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's you're klan that persecutes people because of your mythical 
>>>>>>>> religious beliefs and your klan that will end up in court  and/or jail 
>>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>>> persecution and bigotry.
>>>>>>>> open your heart or open your wallet ... lawyer boy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!  Kim Davis has discriminated against no one.  Your typical 
>>>>>>>>> hate filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point!  "Fat 
>>>>>>>>> assed 
>>>>>>>>> bigoted bitch"  says it all Plain Ol'.   Continue on with your hate, 
>>>>>>>>> vehemence, and lies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly 
>>>>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders.
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> does the name kim davis ring a bell?
>>>>>>>>>> that fat ass bigoted bitch was sent to jail for persecuting 
>>>>>>>>>> lgbt's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   You will have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out 
>>>>>>>>>> Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate Christians 
>>>>>>>>>> and go 
>>>>>>>>>> on the attack against them!
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> defend yourself at all times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the 
>>>>>>>>>> breakdown of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in 
>>>>>>>>>> these 
>>>>>>>>>> people's lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and 
>>>>>>>>>> terroristic rampages.
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> lack of xianity?
>>>>>>>>>> nobody kills more people than religious myth believing abrahamics.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the good news!
>>>>>>>>>> world-wide, humans are becoming less religious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly 
>>>>>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders.  
>>>>>>>>>>> You will 
>>>>>>>>>>> have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out Atheists, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Agnostics, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and left of center elitists who hate Christians and go on the 
>>>>>>>>>>> attack 
>>>>>>>>>>> against them!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the 
>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity 
>>>>>>>>>>> in these 
>>>>>>>>>>> people's lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations 
>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>> terroristic rampages.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Harper Mercer;
>>>>>>>>>>> Floyd Lee Corkins;
>>>>>>>>>>> Amy Bishop; 
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew J. Stack,  
>>>>>>>>>>> James J. Lee;
>>>>>>>>>>> Craig Stephen Hicks;
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Lanza, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Laughner, 
>>>>>>>>>>> Seung-hui Cho, 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to name a few.....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM, plainolamerican <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> we should jail as many as it takes to insure equal protection 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to lgbt's and other minority groups from xian persecution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-6, Travis 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Posted By *Greg Corombos* On 12/25/2015 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The year 2015 witnessed a Supreme Court decision ruling there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, a federal judge 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> county clerk for refusing to issue licenses to gay couples and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosion of the transgender movement, but one of the key figures 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture wars says 2016 could well be a year of Americans pushing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the liberal agenda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In June, years worth of political and legal battles found 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their way to the Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision authored by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justice 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony Kennedy, the court ruled that the equal protections 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution ought to establish a right to same-sex marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The decision was not surprising given previous rulings by the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same justices, but Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver told 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WND and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio America it was disgraceful nonetheless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Frankly, I don’t think it deserves any respect as the rule of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> law,” Staver said. “It’s just the opinion of five justices. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are playing the games of masquerade and assuming this is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution says. That will have a culture-changing impact at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every level.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although he refuses to honor the court ruling, Staver knows it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a huge moment in the battle over American morality. He said 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has arrived at a major cultural crossroads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “This is a culture clash of unprecedented proportions that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ve now entered into. This will continue as we move into the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new year,” 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said. “It’s going to come up in every conceivable context 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> private 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools, churches, universities, colleges, you name it. Every 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> institution, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every person of faith will have to address this issue.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver would know. Weeks after the Supreme Court decision, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he became counsel for Kim Davis, the clerk for Rowan County, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kentucky. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, a born-again Christian, refused to issue marriage licenses 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexual couples, citing her freedom of conscience and free 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expression. The federal courts disagreed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Two months after this 5-4 opinion, the first Christian went 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jail for her sincerely held religious beliefs,” Staver said. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Although 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> she was the first, she certainly won’t be the last. It will not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> involve 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only public employees or public elected officials but certainly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the private 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sector as well.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the entire Davis saga could easily have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided, but the Democratic governor refused to take action to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights of conscience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “There was no accommodation that was given by the former 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor, Steven Beshear, who is no longer in office. He refused 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodate her so she made her own accommodation. When she 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> returned to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, she refused to violate her conscience, so she removed her 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> name and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> title from the license,” Staver said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Mathew Staver:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beshear was replaced by tea-party Republican Matt Bevin, who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scored a large upset victory over Democrat Jack Conway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He became elected, in large part, because of the marriage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue and Kim Davis," Staver said. "He took the side of natural 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and supports Kim Davis. He's now been sworn into office, and he's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [issued] an executive order to protect the religious freedom of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Davis 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other clerks like her."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec. 23, Bevin ordered the removal of clerks' names from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage licenses throughout the commonwealth, the very same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision Davis 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made unilaterally earlier in the year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the story of Gov. Bevin ought to be a lesson to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> national candidates as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The candidates will have to address this issue. The voters 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will require that they address this issue," said Staver, who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushing back is a winning issue for the GOP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The more and more the issue of same-sex marriage and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> radical, so-called LGBT agenda moves forward, the more people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will see how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intolerant it is, how coercive it is," Staver said. "Kim Davis is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exhibit A in that situation. I think most people will say, 'This 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of America we want to live in. This is not what we bargained 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for,' and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're going to push back."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver also believes the reputation of the nation's courts is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in peril. He said an upcoming ruling in high-profile abortion 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical to how Americans view the courts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I think it's pushing itself into the realm of illegitimacy," 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said. "I think the same-sex marriage case pushed it across the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> line. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think if it goes the wrong way on the abortion or the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contraception and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion-inducing drug mandate, I think that will finish off this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> court and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people will just simply say, 'We're not going to obey people who 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invent the law as they go.'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As the gay marriage debate reached a critical moment at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, the transgender movement also emerged much more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015, led by Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner announcing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified as a woman named Caitlyn. Multiple television 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs emerged <http://dateline.radioamerica.org/?p=15655> to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlight the stories of Jenner and others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is part of their whole movement to bring out this bizarre 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'I think, therefore I am' concept," Staver said. "We always saw 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy, but now they're actually trying to make that a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality, that if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think you're a woman then you ought to be legally recognized 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> treated as a woman? It's absolutely absurd."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said it doesn't take a deep faith to understand the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deep flaws in embracing the movement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You cannot get used to something that pushes in your face and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a direct collision with your sincerely held religious beliefs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frankly, objective, observable reality," he said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver admits 2015 was a difficult year for cultural 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservatives, but he said there is much more reason for hope 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than despair.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "We haven't even begun to see this battle," Staver said. "This 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> battle is far from over, and, for me, I ultimately believe we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will win this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> battle going forward."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL to article: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/many-more-u-s-christians-headed-to-jail-in-2016/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/many-more-u-s-christians-headed-to-jail-in-2016/>*
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