You Sir, have admitted your true self here in the last 24 hours. Not only that, you have clumsily attempted to put words in my mouth and changed what I wrote and said.
Not even a nice try.....Clumsy! Again, you've shown your true colors, and I go back to my question to you a month ago: "*Where do you actually live?*" It's hard for me to believe you are an American citizen. On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > The Supreme Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where now > a Gay man or Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their > sexual proclivities. > --- > obey the law or pay the fine. > > This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that it > allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges that > I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes. > --- > poor feller ... try again. You are not being discriminated against in any > way. > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> A couple of "Facts" that you are overlooking Brine; >> >> First, the week prior to Ms. Davis refusing to place her signature on a >> marriage license for same sex couples; wherein the U.S. Supreme Court >> unconstitutionally redefined marriage; the Kentucky Constitution, as well >> as Kentucky Code defined marriage as between one man and one woman. This >> was the law of the land; and will of the 4.4 million Kentuckians who spoke >> out on the Kentucky Constitutional Amendment. >> >> Ms. Davis was in fact an elected Official by the Kentuckians of Rowan >> County. This, the same Kentuckians who in fact voted and vociferously were >> opposed to the redefinition of marriage. >> >> "Special Rights" is exactly what has happened here. Prior to the >> redefinition of marriage, a Gay man or a Gay woman was able to marry >> anyone that they so chose as long as that individual was within the 5,000 >> + years of the tenets and definition of marriage, and; providing that the >> individual who was his or her partner wanted to be married! The Supreme >> Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where now a Gay man or >> Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their sexual >> proclivities. >> >> This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that it >> allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges that >> I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Since the law of the land changed and she felt so strongly that she >>> could not uphold the law, she should have quit the job ... if I am unable >>> to do what my employer requires, my job is forfeit!!! >>> >>> How is it "special" to want the same rights afforded others ... why >>> should a gay person have to jump through hoops and hire lawyers when a >>> union granted by the state will give them all the same rights? >>> >>> The worst argument I heard against gay people getting married was by a >>> woman on a board who didn't want them to collect social security ... do gay >>> people NOT pay FICA???? >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays. Mark me in >>>> the "opposed" category. >>>> >>>> Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one. >>>> >>>> You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that you >>>> have slung against this Christian woman! Shame on you! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") >>>>> persecute Gays? >>>>> --- >>>>> she refused to issue them marriage licenses ... but you know that. >>>>> >>>>> What is your definition of "persecute"? >>>>> --- >>>>> denying someone equal rights. >>>>> >>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used to >>>>> do that! What has changed you? >>>>> --- >>>>> seeing American rights being denied to people because of their >>>>> sexuality. That change took place about 10-15 years ago and you need to >>>>> catch up. Thank goodness you're not a civil rights attorney. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") >>>>>> persecute Gays? What is your definition of "persecute"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used to >>>>>> do that! What has changed you? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical hate >>>>>>> filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat assed >>>>>>> bigoted >>>>>>> bitch" says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, vehemence, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> lies. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> she persecuted gays and then disobeyed the courts .... so they sent >>>>>>> her fat bigoted ass to jail with a warning that if she refused to issue >>>>>>> marriage licenses she would be jailed again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it's you're klan that persecutes people because of your mythical >>>>>>> religious beliefs and your klan that will end up in court and/or jail >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> persecution and bigotry. >>>>>>> open your heart or open your wallet ... lawyer boy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL! Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical >>>>>>>> hate filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat assed >>>>>>>> bigoted bitch" says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, >>>>>>>> vehemence, and lies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly >>>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders. >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> does the name kim davis ring a bell? >>>>>>>>> that fat ass bigoted bitch was sent to jail for persecuting lgbt's. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You will have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out >>>>>>>>> Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate Christians >>>>>>>>> and go >>>>>>>>> on the attack against them! >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> defend yourself at all times. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the breakdown >>>>>>>>> of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in these >>>>>>>>> people's >>>>>>>>> lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and >>>>>>>>> terroristic >>>>>>>>> rampages. >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> lack of xianity? >>>>>>>>> nobody kills more people than religious myth believing abrahamics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the good news! >>>>>>>>> world-wide, humans are becoming less religious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly >>>>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders. >>>>>>>>>> You will >>>>>>>>>> have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out Atheists, >>>>>>>>>> Agnostics, >>>>>>>>>> and left of center elitists who hate Christians and go on the attack >>>>>>>>>> against them! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the >>>>>>>>>> breakdown of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity in >>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>> people's lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and >>>>>>>>>> terroristic rampages. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Harper Mercer; >>>>>>>>>> Floyd Lee Corkins; >>>>>>>>>> Amy Bishop; >>>>>>>>>> Andrew J. Stack, >>>>>>>>>> James J. Lee; >>>>>>>>>> Craig Stephen Hicks; >>>>>>>>>> Adam Lanza, >>>>>>>>>> Jared Laughner, >>>>>>>>>> Seung-hui Cho, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just to name a few..... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016? >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> we should jail as many as it takes to insure equal protection to >>>>>>>>>>> lgbt's and other minority groups from xian persecution. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-6, Travis >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Posted By *Greg Corombos* On 12/25/2015 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The year 2015 witnessed a Supreme Court decision ruling there >>>>>>>>>>>> was a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, a federal judge >>>>>>>>>>>> jailing a >>>>>>>>>>>> county clerk for refusing to issue licenses to gay couples and the >>>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>>> explosion of the transgender movement, but one of the key figures >>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>> culture wars says 2016 could well be a year of Americans pushing >>>>>>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>>> against the liberal agenda. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In June, years worth of political and legal battles found their >>>>>>>>>>>> way to the Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision authored by Justice >>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony >>>>>>>>>>>> Kennedy, the court ruled that the equal protections offered in the >>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution ought to establish a right to same-sex marriage. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The decision was not surprising given previous rulings by the >>>>>>>>>>>> same justices, but Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver told WND >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> Radio America it was disgraceful nonetheless. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Frankly, I don’t think it deserves any respect as the rule of >>>>>>>>>>>> law,” Staver said. “It’s just the opinion of five justices. >>>>>>>>>>>> However, some >>>>>>>>>>>> people are playing the games of masquerade and assuming this is >>>>>>>>>>>> what the >>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution says. That will have a culture-changing impact at >>>>>>>>>>>> every level.” >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Although he refuses to honor the court ruling, Staver knows it >>>>>>>>>>>> is a huge moment in the battle over American morality. He said the >>>>>>>>>>>> nation >>>>>>>>>>>> has arrived at a major cultural crossroads. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “This is a culture clash of unprecedented proportions that >>>>>>>>>>>> we’ve now entered into. This will continue as we move into the new >>>>>>>>>>>> year,” >>>>>>>>>>>> he said. “It’s going to come up in every conceivable context >>>>>>>>>>>> private >>>>>>>>>>>> schools, churches, universities, colleges, you name it. Every >>>>>>>>>>>> institution, >>>>>>>>>>>> every person of faith will have to address this issue.” >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver would know. Weeks after the Supreme Court decision, >>>>>>>>>>>> he became counsel for Kim Davis, the clerk for Rowan County, >>>>>>>>>>>> Kentucky. >>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, a born-again Christian, refused to issue marriage licenses >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> homosexual couples, citing her freedom of conscience and free >>>>>>>>>>>> religious >>>>>>>>>>>> expression. The federal courts disagreed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Two months after this 5-4 opinion, the first Christian went to >>>>>>>>>>>> jail for her sincerely held religious beliefs,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>>>>> “Although she >>>>>>>>>>>> was the first, she certainly won’t be the last. It will not >>>>>>>>>>>> involve only >>>>>>>>>>>> public employees or public elected officials but certainly the >>>>>>>>>>>> private >>>>>>>>>>>> sector as well.” >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the entire Davis saga could easily have been >>>>>>>>>>>> avoided, but the Democratic governor refused to take action to >>>>>>>>>>>> protect the >>>>>>>>>>>> rights of conscience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “There was no accommodation that was given by the former >>>>>>>>>>>> governor, Steven Beshear, who is no longer in office. He refused to >>>>>>>>>>>> accommodate her so she made her own accommodation. When she >>>>>>>>>>>> returned to >>>>>>>>>>>> work, she refused to violate her conscience, so she removed her >>>>>>>>>>>> name and >>>>>>>>>>>> title from the license,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Mathew Staver:* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Beshear was replaced by tea-party Republican Matt Bevin, who >>>>>>>>>>>> scored a large upset victory over Democrat Jack Conway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "He became elected, in large part, because of the marriage >>>>>>>>>>>> issue and Kim Davis," Staver said. "He took the side of natural >>>>>>>>>>>> marriage >>>>>>>>>>>> and supports Kim Davis. He's now been sworn into office, and he's >>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>> [issued] an executive order to protect the religious freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Davis >>>>>>>>>>>> and other clerks like her." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec. 23, Bevin ordered the removal of clerks' names from >>>>>>>>>>>> marriage licenses throughout the commonwealth, the very same >>>>>>>>>>>> decision Davis >>>>>>>>>>>> made unilaterally earlier in the year. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the story of Gov. Bevin ought to be a lesson to >>>>>>>>>>>> national candidates as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "The candidates will have to address this issue. The voters >>>>>>>>>>>> will require that they address this issue," said Staver, who >>>>>>>>>>>> believes >>>>>>>>>>>> pushing back is a winning issue for the GOP. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "The more and more the issue of same-sex marriage and the >>>>>>>>>>>> radical, so-called LGBT agenda moves forward, the more people will >>>>>>>>>>>> see how >>>>>>>>>>>> intolerant it is, how coercive it is," Staver said. "Kim Davis is >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> Exhibit A in that situation. I think most people will say, 'This >>>>>>>>>>>> is not the >>>>>>>>>>>> kind of America we want to live in. This is not what we bargained >>>>>>>>>>>> for,' and >>>>>>>>>>>> they're going to push back." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver also believes the reputation of the nation's courts is >>>>>>>>>>>> in peril. He said an upcoming ruling in high-profile abortion >>>>>>>>>>>> cases will be >>>>>>>>>>>> critical to how Americans view the courts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "I think it's pushing itself into the realm of illegitimacy," >>>>>>>>>>>> he said. "I think the same-sex marriage case pushed it across the >>>>>>>>>>>> line. I >>>>>>>>>>>> think if it goes the wrong way on the abortion or the >>>>>>>>>>>> contraception and the >>>>>>>>>>>> abortion-inducing drug mandate, I think that will finish off this >>>>>>>>>>>> court and >>>>>>>>>>>> people will just simply say, 'We're not going to obey people who >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> invent the law as they go.'" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As the gay marriage debate reached a critical moment at the >>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, the transgender movement also emerged much more >>>>>>>>>>>> publicly in >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015, led by Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner announcing he >>>>>>>>>>>> identified as a woman named Caitlyn. Multiple television >>>>>>>>>>>> programs emerged <http://dateline.radioamerica.org/?p=15655> to >>>>>>>>>>>> highlight the stories of Jenner and others. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "It is part of their whole movement to bring out this bizarre >>>>>>>>>>>> 'I think, therefore I am' concept," Staver said. "We always saw >>>>>>>>>>>> that in >>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy, but now they're actually trying to make that a >>>>>>>>>>>> reality, that if >>>>>>>>>>>> you think you're a woman then you ought to be legally recognized >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> treated as a woman? It's absolutely absurd." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said it doesn't take a deep faith to understand the deep >>>>>>>>>>>> flaws in embracing the movement. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "You cannot get used to something that pushes in your face and >>>>>>>>>>>> is a direct collision with your sincerely held religious beliefs >>>>>>>>>>>> and, >>>>>>>>>>>> frankly, objective, observable reality," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Staver admits 2015 was a difficult year for cultural >>>>>>>>>>>> conservatives, but he said there is much more reason for hope than >>>>>>>>>>>> despair. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "We haven't even begun to see this battle," Staver said. 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