Find a State that in fact performs marriages Plain Ol'.....I'll sit right here, atwitter with excitement and anticipation, awaiting your reply. Just one State....Any of the 50....Take your pick, and show us a State that performs "Marriages".
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > wrote: > You Sir, have admitted your true self here in the last 24 hours. Not only > that, you have clumsily attempted to put words in my mouth and changed what > I wrote and said. > Not even a nice try.....Clumsy! Again, you've shown your true colors, > and I go back to my question to you a month ago: "*Where do you actually > live?*" It's hard for me to believe you are an American citizen. > --- > do you want some cheese to go with this whine? > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 10:46:37 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> You Sir, have admitted your true self here in the last 24 hours. Not >> only that, you have clumsily attempted to put words in my mouth and changed >> what I wrote and said. >> >> Not even a nice try.....Clumsy! Again, you've shown your true colors, >> and I go back to my question to you a month ago: "*Where do you >> actually live?*" It's hard for me to believe you are an American >> citizen. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The Supreme Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where >>> now a Gay man or Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their >>> sexual proclivities. >>> --- >>> obey the law or pay the fine. >>> >>> This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that >>> it allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges >>> that I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes. >>> --- >>> poor feller ... try again. You are not being discriminated against in >>> any way. >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 3:54:54 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> A couple of "Facts" that you are overlooking Brine; >>>> >>>> First, the week prior to Ms. Davis refusing to place her signature on a >>>> marriage license for same sex couples; wherein the U.S. Supreme Court >>>> unconstitutionally redefined marriage; the Kentucky Constitution, as well >>>> as Kentucky Code defined marriage as between one man and one woman. This >>>> was the law of the land; and will of the 4.4 million Kentuckians who spoke >>>> out on the Kentucky Constitutional Amendment. >>>> >>>> Ms. Davis was in fact an elected Official by the Kentuckians of Rowan >>>> County. This, the same Kentuckians who in fact voted and vociferously were >>>> opposed to the redefinition of marriage. >>>> >>>> "Special Rights" is exactly what has happened here. Prior to the >>>> redefinition of marriage, a Gay man or a Gay woman was able to marry >>>> anyone that they so chose as long as that individual was within the 5,000 >>>> + years of the tenets and definition of marriage, and; providing that the >>>> individual who was his or her partner wanted to be married! The Supreme >>>> Court has now redefined the definition of marriage, where now a Gay man or >>>> Woman can marry someone of their own sex, based on their sexual >>>> proclivities. >>>> >>>> This is discriminatory against me, a single, heterosexual man, in that >>>> it allows for a Gay man to reap certain tax benefits and other privileges >>>> that I am not allowed, based on my sexual tastes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Since the law of the land changed and she felt so strongly that she >>>>> could not uphold the law, she should have quit the job ... if I am unable >>>>> to do what my employer requires, my job is forfeit!!! >>>>> >>>>> How is it "special" to want the same rights afforded others ... why >>>>> should a gay person have to jump through hoops and hire lawyers when a >>>>> union granted by the state will give them all the same rights? >>>>> >>>>> The worst argument I heard against gay people getting married was by a >>>>> woman on a board who didn't want them to collect social security ... do >>>>> gay >>>>> people NOT pay FICA???? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, what you are advocating is "Special Rights" for Gays. Mark me >>>>>> in the "opposed" category. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ms. Davis by your own admission has persecuted no one. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be ashamed at the hatred, smear and nasty rhetoric that >>>>>> you have slung against this Christian woman! Shame on you! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") >>>>>>> persecute Gays? >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> she refused to issue them marriage licenses ... but you know that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is your definition of "persecute"? >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> denying someone equal rights. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used >>>>>>> to do that! What has changed you? >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> seeing American rights being denied to people because of their >>>>>>> sexuality. That change took place about 10-15 years ago and you need to >>>>>>> catch up. Thank goodness you're not a civil rights attorney. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:43:50 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How did Ms. Davis, (*e.g.*; "the *fat assed bigoted bitch*") >>>>>>>> persecute Gays? What is your definition of "persecute"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get a grip Plain Ol' and stop it with the PC crap! You never used >>>>>>>> to do that! What has changed you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical hate >>>>>>>>> filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat assed >>>>>>>>> bigoted >>>>>>>>> bitch" says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, >>>>>>>>> vehemence, and >>>>>>>>> lies. >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> she persecuted gays and then disobeyed the courts .... so they >>>>>>>>> sent her fat bigoted ass to jail with a warning that if she refused to >>>>>>>>> issue marriage licenses she would be jailed again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it's you're klan that persecutes people because of your mythical >>>>>>>>> religious beliefs and your klan that will end up in court and/or >>>>>>>>> jail for >>>>>>>>> persecution and bigotry. >>>>>>>>> open your heart or open your wallet ... lawyer boy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> LOL! Kim Davis has discriminated against no one. Your typical >>>>>>>>>> hate filled extremist (and clueless) post proves my point! "Fat >>>>>>>>>> assed >>>>>>>>>> bigoted bitch" says it all Plain Ol'. Continue on with your hate, >>>>>>>>>> vehemence, and lies. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has purportedly >>>>>>>>>>> discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or Transgenders. >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> does the name kim davis ring a bell? >>>>>>>>>>> that fat ass bigoted bitch was sent to jail for persecuting >>>>>>>>>>> lgbt's. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You will have a hard time somehow protecting those wacked out >>>>>>>>>>> Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate >>>>>>>>>>> Christians and go >>>>>>>>>>> on the attack against them! >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> defend yourself at all times. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the >>>>>>>>>>> breakdown of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity >>>>>>>>>>> in these >>>>>>>>>>> people's lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations and >>>>>>>>>>> terroristic rampages. >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> lack of xianity? >>>>>>>>>>> nobody kills more people than religious myth believing >>>>>>>>>>> abrahamics. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the good news! >>>>>>>>>>> world-wide, humans are becoming less religious. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To date, you've yet to produce any Christian who has >>>>>>>>>>>> purportedly discriminated against or in any way harmed Gays or >>>>>>>>>>>> Transgenders. You will have a hard time somehow protecting those >>>>>>>>>>>> wacked >>>>>>>>>>>> out Atheists, Agnostics, and left of center elitists who hate >>>>>>>>>>>> Christians >>>>>>>>>>>> and go on the attack against them! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is no excuse Plain Ol'; other than to point to the >>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown of the family, moral decay and the lack of Christianity >>>>>>>>>>>> in these >>>>>>>>>>>> people's lives that cause them to go on murderous assassinations >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> terroristic rampages. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Harper Mercer; >>>>>>>>>>>> Floyd Lee Corkins; >>>>>>>>>>>> Amy Bishop; >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew J. Stack, >>>>>>>>>>>> James J. Lee; >>>>>>>>>>>> Craig Stephen Hicks; >>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Lanza, >>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Laughner, >>>>>>>>>>>> Seung-hui Cho, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just to name a few..... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:39 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016? >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> we should jail as many as it takes to insure equal protection >>>>>>>>>>>>> to lgbt's and other minority groups from xian persecution. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, December 26, 2015 at 10:22:02 AM UTC-6, Travis >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Many more U.S. Christians headed to jail in 2016?* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Posted By *Greg Corombos* On 12/25/2015 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The year 2015 witnessed a Supreme Court decision ruling there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, a federal judge >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> county clerk for refusing to issue licenses to gay couples and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the public >>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosion of the transgender movement, but one of the key >>>>>>>>>>>>>> figures in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture wars says 2016 could well be a year of Americans pushing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the liberal agenda. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In June, years worth of political and legal battles found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their way to the Supreme Court. By a 5-4 decision authored by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony Kennedy, the court ruled that the equal protections >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offered in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution ought to establish a right to same-sex marriage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The decision was not surprising given previous rulings by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same justices, but Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver told >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WND and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio America it was disgraceful nonetheless. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Frankly, I don’t think it deserves any respect as the rule >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of law,” Staver said. “It’s just the opinion of five justices. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some people are playing the games of masquerade and assuming >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Constitution says. That will have a culture-changing impact >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at every >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although he refuses to honor the court ruling, Staver knows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a huge moment in the battle over American morality. He >>>>>>>>>>>>>> said the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation has arrived at a major cultural crossroads. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “This is a culture clash of unprecedented proportions that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we’ve now entered into. This will continue as we move into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new year,” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said. “It’s going to come up in every conceivable context >>>>>>>>>>>>>> private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools, churches, universities, colleges, you name it. Every >>>>>>>>>>>>>> institution, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> every person of faith will have to address this issue.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver would know. Weeks after the Supreme Court decision, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he became counsel for Kim Davis, the clerk for Rowan County, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kentucky. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davis, a born-again Christian, refused to issue marriage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexual couples, citing her freedom of conscience and free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious >>>>>>>>>>>>>> expression. The federal courts disagreed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Two months after this 5-4 opinion, the first Christian went >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to jail for her sincerely held religious beliefs,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Although >>>>>>>>>>>>>> she was the first, she certainly won’t be the last. It will not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> involve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only public employees or public elected officials but certainly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sector as well.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the entire Davis saga could easily have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided, but the Democratic governor refused to take action to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> protect the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights of conscience. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “There was no accommodation that was given by the former >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor, Steven Beshear, who is no longer in office. He refused >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accommodate her so she made her own accommodation. When she >>>>>>>>>>>>>> returned to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, she refused to violate her conscience, so she removed her >>>>>>>>>>>>>> name and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> title from the license,” Staver said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Listen to the WND/Radio America interview with Mathew >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beshear was replaced by tea-party Republican Matt Bevin, who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scored a large upset victory over Democrat Jack Conway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He became elected, in large part, because of the marriage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue and Kim Davis," Staver said. "He took the side of natural >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and supports Kim Davis. He's now been sworn into office, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's already >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [issued] an executive order to protect the religious freedom of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Davis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and other clerks like her." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec. 23, Bevin ordered the removal of clerks' names from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage licenses throughout the commonwealth, the very same >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decision Davis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> made unilaterally earlier in the year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said the story of Gov. Bevin ought to be a lesson to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> national candidates as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The candidates will have to address this issue. The voters >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will require that they address this issue," said Staver, who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> believes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushing back is a winning issue for the GOP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The more and more the issue of same-sex marriage and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> radical, so-called LGBT agenda moves forward, the more people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will see how >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intolerant it is, how coercive it is," Staver said. "Kim Davis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exhibit A in that situation. I think most people will say, 'This >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of America we want to live in. This is not what we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bargained for,' and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're going to push back." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver also believes the reputation of the nation's courts is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in peril. He said an upcoming ruling in high-profile abortion >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> critical to how Americans view the courts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I think it's pushing itself into the realm of illegitimacy," >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he said. "I think the same-sex marriage case pushed it across >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the line. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think if it goes the wrong way on the abortion or the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contraception and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion-inducing drug mandate, I think that will finish off >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this court and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people will just simply say, 'We're not going to obey people who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> invent the law as they go.'" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As the gay marriage debate reached a critical moment at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court, the transgender movement also emerged much more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015, led by Olympic decathlon champion Bruce Jenner announcing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified as a woman named Caitlyn. Multiple television >>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs emerged <http://dateline.radioamerica.org/?p=15655> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlight the stories of Jenner and others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It is part of their whole movement to bring out this bizarre >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'I think, therefore I am' concept," Staver said. "We always saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> philosophy, but now they're actually trying to make that a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality, that if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you think you're a woman then you ought to be legally recognized >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> treated as a woman? It's absolutely absurd." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver said it doesn't take a deep faith to understand the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> deep flaws in embracing the movement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You cannot get used to something that pushes in your face >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and is a direct collision with your sincerely held religious >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs and, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> frankly, objective, observable reality," he said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staver admits 2015 was a difficult year for cultural >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservatives, but he said there is much more reason for hope >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than despair. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "We haven't even begun to see this battle," Staver >>>>>>>>>>>>>> said. 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