When we enter into contracts with other Nations, then yes, I believe we 
must be true to our word.
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spoken like a fucking lawyer.
that you will put the interests of other nations above those of America 
says tons.


On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>
> When we enter into contracts with other Nations, then yes, I believe we 
> must be true to our word.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:25 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I do support the United States having the mightiest military arsenal and 
>> machine in the world, bar none, and be able to strike any opponent or any 
>> entity or individual who threatens our Nation or our people with only a 
>> moment's notice.  
>> ---
>> so do I.
>> the difference is that you would use it for the protection of allied 
>> nations.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 10:36:51 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>
>>> I've supported no "wasteful spending" and especially on shitholes like 
>>> the Middle East.  Quite the contrary.
>>>
>>> I do support the United States having the mightiest military arsenal and 
>>> machine in the world, bar none, and be able to strike any opponent or any 
>>> entity or individual who threatens our Nation or our people with only a 
>>> moment's notice.  
>>>
>>> I now understand why you oppose this.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I go back to my thesis of "Progressives:  (A)  Progressives/Liberals 
>>>> are either uninformed or misinformed; or,
>>>> ---
>>>> intellectual arrogance noted.
>>>> a common trait among lawyers.
>>>>
>>>>  (B)  They are Anti-American and wish to see our Nation become a Third 
>>>> World or Fourth World Nation-State.   
>>>> ---
>>>> that's real funny coming from someone who supports wasteful spending 
>>>> and wars on that shit hole called the middle east and every other foreign 
>>>> dispute around the globe.
>>>> your klan should not be allowed to use America's debit or credit cards.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 8:03:05 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Morning Pluto!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am saddened that you believe I am "blinkered"....Or blinded; or 
>>>>> refuse to look at any other point of view.  That's just not the case.  
>>>>> Most 
>>>>> of my political opinions have been well formed and thought out, after 
>>>>> much 
>>>>> consideration and review of the issue.  I've even been known to oppose 
>>>>> what 
>>>>> is generally thought of or termed a "conservative" or "Republican" 
>>>>> position.  I try to look at issues with common sense and before I speak,  
>>>>> I 
>>>>> generally have an idea of what it is that I am talking about, as opposeed 
>>>>> to many who hold left of center viewpoints.  
>>>>>
>>>>> I go back to my thesis of "Progressives:  (A)  Progressives/Liberals 
>>>>> are either uninformed or misinformed; or, (B)  They are Anti-American and 
>>>>> wish to see our Nation become a Third World or Fourth World Nation-State. 
>>>>>   
>>>>> There's really no other option or explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 7:47 PM, pluto of brougham <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing wrong Keith in contemplating a better world, "Utopia" 
>>>>> as you'd term it, Plaino and I are irreconcilably opposed whereas guns 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> concerned, nonetheless he does make several valid points in his posts, 
>>>>> you 
>>>>> on the other hand, are so blinkered by your own very far right opinions 
>>>>> that you will not even consider anyone else's point of view.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Truman was in trouble and needed the NY Jewish vote ... that is the 
>>>>> only reason the US recognized Israel ... see he got it and won!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *"Harry Truman's Jewish Problem"*
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/harry-trumans-jewish-problem
>>>>>
>>>>> A newly discovered diary of Harry S Truman indicates that the former 
>>>>> president may have had a strongly negative opinion of Jews. In the diary, 
>>>>> which includes 42 entries written in 1947, Truman recounts a conversation 
>>>>> he had with Henry Morgenthau, the Secretary of the Treasury, who had 
>>>>> phoned 
>>>>> to discuss the fate of Jewish refugees. In criticizing the approach of 
>>>>> Morgenthau, who was Jewish, Truman wrote in a July 21 passage, "The Jews, 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, 
>>>>> Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as 
>>>>> D[isplaced] 
>>>>> P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have 
>>>>> power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has 
>>>>> anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog." 
>>>>> *"We Can Learn a Lot From Truman the Bigot"*
>>>>>
>>>>> http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jul/18/opinion/oe-kuznick18
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *"Nixon, Truman, and FDR’s Private Thoughts About Jews"*
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/08/30/nixon-truman-and-fdr%E2%80%99s-private-thoughts-about-jews/
>>>>>
>>>>> One finds a similar phenomenon with regard to several earlier 
>>>>> presidents. A previously unknown diary by Harry Truman, discovered in 
>>>>> 2003, 
>>>>> revealed that he harbored harsh feelings about Jews. Incensed when former 
>>>>> Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr. called him about the plight of 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> refugee ship Exodus in 1947, Truman wrote in his diary, “He [had] no 
>>>>> business, whatever to call me. The Jews have no sense of proportion nor 
>>>>> do 
>>>>> they have any judgment on world affairs… The Jews, I find, are very, very 
>>>>> selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, 
>>>>> Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[erson]s 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, 
>>>>> physical, 
>>>>> financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for 
>>>>> cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.” 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:19 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> as if there was a doubt about Truman's regard for the jews and israel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is a "*de Facto*"  recognition?  
>>>>>
>>>>> That's PC Talk for, "Shoulda-Woulda-Coulda" but didn't.....
>>>>>
>>>>> No, Harry Truman and a number of Congressmen had serious reservations 
>>>>> about acknowledging the UN Created State of Israel, and it was months 
>>>>> after 
>>>>> the Soviets' acknowledgement that the U.S. formally acknowledged 
>>>>> recognition of the UN Created Nation-State of Israel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:42 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> UN member states
>>>>> USA - Date of de facto recognition: 14 May 1948
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 1:25:59 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The United States acknowledged Israel on 1 February 1949.   Russia, on 
>>>>> the other hand, acknowledged Israel on 17 May 1948:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:03 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel.  As a matter 
>>>>> of fact, we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel.  It 
>>>>> was the United Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of 
>>>>> Israel.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> your ignorance of history astounds me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The agreement, which occurred when it appeared that Germany was 
>>>>> winning WW I, was that Zionists would work to get the United States 
>>>>> involved in the war if Britain would deliver Palestine as a Jewish 
>>>>> homeland.  The reason for the American involvement in the war and the 
>>>>> American contribution to the arrangement have not been widely understood: 
>>>>> the Balfour Declaration (as well as the later British Mandate) were 
>>>>> drafted 
>>>>> in both Britain and the US, including by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis 
>>>>> Brandeis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Germany had no inkling of this deal until the post-war 1919 Paris 
>>>>> Peace Conference, which Zionists attended to ensure that Britain would 
>>>>> come 
>>>>> through with its part of the agreement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even before Britain washed its hands of Palestine, Zionists recognized 
>>>>> that they needed the support of the United States for Israel to survive 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> thrive, so the U.S. became the focus of propaganda and political 
>>>>> pressure.  
>>>>> Harry Truman, the US President who recognized the State of Israel 
>>>>> immediately after it declared itself a state, had received a 
>>>>> then-staggering $2 million from a Zionist donor during what had appeared 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> be a losing presidential campaign.  State Department leaders were against 
>>>>> supporting Israel because it damaged U.S. relations with Arab countries 
>>>>> and, more importantly, violated important American principles of 
>>>>> self-determination and justice. Elected leaders, vulnerable to political 
>>>>> pressure and access to campaign funding, were not able to maintain such 
>>>>> America-first integrity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Weir documented various little-known Zionist efforts to support the 
>>>>> creation of their state.  The activities — basically bribes, lies, 
>>>>> subterfuge, threats and violence– included:
>>>>>
>>>>>    -  Zionist leaders’ “mixed reaction” to Nazism, with some seeing 
>>>>>    that the convergent goals would benefit a Jewish state that required a 
>>>>>    Jewish population;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -  Secret American Zionist clubs (including the elite Parushim 
>>>>>    with Felix Frankfurter) which pledged to work for Israel behind the 
>>>>> scenes;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Creating the myth that a refuge was needed for Jews (including 
>>>>>    falsifying anti-Semitism in Germany and Poland and, more importantly, 
>>>>>    sabotaging western countries’ efforts to open their doors to Jewish 
>>>>>    refugees after WW II in order to ensure that Jews had few choices of 
>>>>> refuge 
>>>>>    outside of Israel); and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    -  Zionists’ role in the creation of Christian Zionism and the 
>>>>>    Scofield Reference Bible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Weir ends her short history of Israel’s creation by documenting some 
>>>>> key examples of how Israel-firsters were able to destroy the careers — if 
>>>>> not the lives — of prominent Americans in government, journalism and 
>>>>> academia who warned of the loss of American credibility in supporting a 
>>>>> state that was based on religious discrimination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Weir keeps her book focused on the early history of Israel, ignoring 
>>>>> highly significant later events, particularly those concerning Senator 
>>>>> William Fulbright: his uncovering of Jewish charity fraud that recycled 
>>>>> charitable donations into US propaganda, his attempts, with JFK, to force 
>>>>> the main Zionist organization to register as an agent of a foreign 
>>>>> government and the loss of Fulbright’s Senate seat to the then-unheard of 
>>>>> Dale Bumpers.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main messages from Weir’s history are that the Jewish community 
>>>>> has not legitimately needed a homeland- refuge from anti-Semitism and 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> Americans must take back their country by insisting that their elected 
>>>>> officials place the interests of the United States before those of Israel.
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of points:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.   Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> true ... Israel was hijacked by zionist terrorists.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and 
>>>>> Israel should be condemned by the UN,  (which they are and have been).  
>>>>> Israel has UN Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed.  
>>>>> Nevertheless, until such time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> fact that there is, and always will be an Israel,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> speculation noted.
>>>>>
>>>>>   and while Palestinians continue to perpetrate terroristic acts 
>>>>> against Israel, it's hard for the UN, or any one individual to muster any 
>>>>> support for them.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> you obviously won't recognize israel's terrorism of the palestinians 
>>>>> ... so discussing this issue with you is fruitless.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 12:09:34 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Uhm.....It wasn't the United States that formed Israel.  As a matter 
>>>>> of fact, we were one of the last Nations to even acknowledge Israel.  It 
>>>>> was the United Nations with the Soviet Union supporting the creation of 
>>>>> Israel.  
>>>>>
>>>>> A couple of points:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.   Biblical Israel is not at all the same as UN created Israel. 
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  I concur that the U.S. should not support Israel's land grab; and 
>>>>> Israel should be condemned by the UN,  (which they are and have been).  
>>>>> Israel has UN Sanctions than Iraq and Saddam Hussein ever amassed.  
>>>>> Nevertheless, until such time as the Arab world and Palestinians accept 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> fact that there is, and always will be an Israel,  and while Palestinians 
>>>>> continue to perpetrate terroristic acts against Israel, it's hard for the 
>>>>> UN, or any one individual to muster any support for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:15 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology 
>>>>> similar in scope to Islam.
>>>>> It's just not.  
>>>>> ---
>>>>> if you can't see the genocide and land theft that zionists are 
>>>>> committing with extorted US weapons and tax dollars then I can't help you.
>>>>> go ahead and buddy up with the zionists and be something other than 
>>>>> American.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:09:26 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Because your premise is flawed, and you apparently are the only one 
>>>>> individual in the world who sees "Zionism";  e.g.; the desire to move to 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> Jewish Homeland, as violent.  Nothing could be further from the truth. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there repercussions from Zionism?  Admittedly yes.  But as you 
>>>>> love to sling around, "Not An American Concern".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sitting here trying to even contemplate Zionism as an ideology 
>>>>> similar in scope to Islam.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just not.  Ridiculous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, plainolamerican <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct.  That Judaism 
>>>>> is an "ideology" similar in scope to Islam.  I vehemently disagree with 
>>>>> that, and could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all 
>>>>> comparable, and that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> does Islam, let's go with your point as accurate and truthful.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown 
>>>>> up this week?  This past year?  Over the last fifteen years?  
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I'm not comparing judaism to isalm. I'm comparing zionism to islam ... 
>>>>> the same way I would compare zionist xianity to both islam and judaic 
>>>>> zionism.
>>>>> They're the most violent, warmongering people on the planet and the 
>>>>> enemy of the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> and just because you don't see their bigotry and 'interventionism' as 
>>>>> terrorism doesn't mean it's not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 8:27:25 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Morning Plain Ol'!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's assume for a moment, that your premise is correct.  That Judaism 
>>>>> is an "ideology" similar in scope to Islam.  I vehemently disagree with 
>>>>> that, and could give numerous examples of how the two are not at all 
>>>>> comparable, and that Judaism doesn't even remotely resemble an ideology 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> does Islam, let's go with your point as accurate and truthful.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many Christians, Americans, or airplanes have radical Jews blown 
>>>>> up this week?  This past year?  Over the last fifteen years?  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:23 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  law enforcement should arrest them all for being traitors/enemies of 
>>>>> the state!!!
>>>>> ---
>>>>> they should also arrest these traitors/enemies of the state
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-6, brine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly I see nothing but material/flags but can not identify them 
>>>>> from the photo ... if they are in fact ISIS fags, law enforcement should 
>>>>> arrest them all for being traitors/enemies of the state!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ​
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