I feel for you guys. Our state passed a law several years ago capping property taxes at 1% of assessed value (which is market value minus a homestead credit of over $100K). The average tax paid in the state is 0.88% market value.
On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:39:19 PM UTC-4, Mustang wrote: > > Brine, > > Am I reading this correctly? Your taxes are based on your $60K house and > your actual land property isn't assessed? > > In CA, property is only reassessed when there are changes - up for an > additional room (permits tell the tale) or down when property values > (requested reassessment) take a dive. My former Los Angeles house was > originally assessed based on $115K purchase price. Taxes totaled around > $1400 per year. Ten years later the house was "valued" at $505K. After 20 > years, my taxes were only $1800. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I couldn't have > kept it if there were reassessed values every few years. > > Now I live in Riverside county. This small house (and property) was only > $145K and my total taxes are $2300/year. That includes about $800 of > nickel and dime BS added for mosquito control (3" rain annually), grade > schools, flood control (still only 3" rain annually), high schools, roads, > colleges, library, and vaguely named items that I don't understand. > > On a balancing side, our car registration here is based on value. If I > remember correctly, NJ was three levels and mine was $15 per year back > then. NY registration was based on the weight of the vehicle. > > I'm glad I left Bergen county back in '72! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Brian Bednarek <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *To:* "[email protected] <javascript:>" < > [email protected] <javascript:>> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 16, 2016 3:46 PM > *Subject:* Re: The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens > > The building is assessed at $60K the land is not part on the NJ property > tax deal ... when I bought my house in 1994, taxes were $2.4k the system > that funds the school system makes sure that my taxes will ALWAYS go up!!! > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Is that the market or assessed value? Do you mean $600,000? > Because $8,000.00 is over 10%of the value of your house. My god > > On Jul 16, 2016 5:18 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > My taxes are based on the fact that my house is worth $60K ... I am afraid > of the day they reassess my taxes!!! My co-worker had to sell his house and > find a house in a smaller tax zone after he went up to $14K ... don't > forget NJ has close to 600 school districts with various staff and what not > making over $100K ... the problem started way before the current Governor!!! > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > Your property taxes are *only* $8K per year? You'd have to live in a house > assessed at $800K to pay that much here. > > You don't have to convince me that Christie's term as governor there has > been disastrous, or that he's a liberal in sheep's clothing. He was the one > person who, if named as VP, I'd have likely just left the box for POTUS > blank on election day. I really can't stand him. Such a blowhard. > > I remember in one of the debates (before his horrible poll results knocked > him down to the lower tier debate), Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump were > touting their records and accomplishments in business (something few > Americans knew about either of them). Christie blustered into the > conversation, scolding them both with, "for the 55-year-old construction > worker out in that audience tonight who doesn't have a job, who can't fund > his child's education — I gotta tell you the truth — they could care less > about your careers." Then he proceeded to spend more time than anyone on > the stage touting his cherry-picked record in NJ over and over again - as > if that somehow helps a 55-year old construction worker. > > He is seriously the most loudmouthed, obnoxious - and of course fat-assed > - politician I've ever seen. > > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-4, brine wrote: > > Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and > minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school > (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the > government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the > self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the > damage they've done for decades is so apparent. > > I live in NJ and we have "charter schools" and "Abbot districts" which are > in poor sections and they get much more money to teach and it proves that > throwing money at the problem isn't the answer ... Johnny still can't > read!!! Governor Christie has pissed off a lot of folk with his concept of > "fair funding" for school districts ... same money per student in all > districts!!! As a person who never had a child and went to Catholic Schools > until the 9th grade, I had a better education because of my parents; I am > tired of my property taxes being sent to Trenton and not coming back to my > town, but going to "poor districts"!!! 75% of my property taxes go to the > school system, I am in a town that is fairly affordable, my property taxes > are only $8K a year ... NJ has put in the lottery, gambling and raised the > sales tax to give us property tax relief and every year my taxes go up ... > something ain't right!!! > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:04 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall > <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> > > on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see > if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing > and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. > ---- > > Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and > minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school > (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the > government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the > self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the > damage they've done for decades is so apparent. > > I live in a conservative state where poor and working class kids living in > horrible public school districts can obtain a voucher and attend the > private school of their choice. The program grows every year and currently > has over 32K kids taking advantage of this opportunity. I expect doing so > will pay off nicely within a few years. > > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:58:32 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote: > > > Thursday, July 14, 2016 > > *The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens *bionic misquito > > “There are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred to our city. > All I know is that this must stop, this divisiveness between our police and > our citizens.” > -- Dallas > <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says> > Police > Chief David Brown > <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says>, > > in the wake of the recent shooting of five police officers and several > others > > Mr. Brown, most (but not all) of the causes behind the divisiveness are > due to decisions made by individuals well above your pay grade. > > I offer a few simple actions that can be taken immediately in both > Washington DC and in every state capital around the country – these actions > will have immediate beneficial effect toward ending the “divisiveness > between our police and our citizens.” > > 1) Eliminate all laws regarding victimless crimes – including, and > especially, drug laws > 2) Eliminate minimum wage laws > 3) End civil asset forfeiture > > As soon as these are ended, several benefits will be immediately realized: > the number of negative interactions between police and citizens will be > overwhelmingly reduced; more fathers will be free of prison, available to > tend to their families; low-skilled and unskilled individuals can work > legally; police will have far less incentive to stop and search the > citizens. > > I could write more – end the subsidies for fatherless families and end > public education, for example. However these are much more complex. The > above items can be ended tomorrow without concern. > > Of course, that we live in a society where it is legal for government > employees to commit crimes > <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/jack-perry/spare-maudlin-theatrics-please/> > > contributes to this divisiveness. It is also true that residents of > high-crime neighborhoods can and should take matters into their own hands > <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/walter-e-williams/challenge-black-people/> > . > > But if we don’t want to continue on this certain slide toward ever-more > divisiveness, enacting the above-listed items will go a long way. Police > and citizens are fighting an uphill and losing battle as long as measures > such as the above remain in place. > > Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall > <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> > > on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see > if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing > and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. > > Sadly, I know the answer already. > > > > http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.rs/2016/07/the-divisiveness-between-our-police-and.html > > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > <http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. 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