I have no desire to move south, I am happy being close to NYC and Philly. I have a bunch of Family that now live in Florida, I hate the heat ... I do know that if I ever retire, I will have to leave NJ .. but that's a while away!!!
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:29 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> wrote: > Go south young man > > On Jul 16, 2016 7:04 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You are correct ...based on my structure being worth $60K is how I pay my >> property taxes ... NJ is totally twisted as far as property tax goes >> ...there has been a push to reassess property, especially in my county to >> get more money out of us!!! >> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:39 PM, 'Mustang' via PoliticalForum < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Brine, >>> >>> Am I reading this correctly? Your taxes are based on your $60K house >>> and your actual land property isn't assessed? >>> >>> In CA, property is only reassessed when there are changes - up for an >>> additional room (permits tell the tale) or down when property values >>> (requested reassessment) take a dive. My former Los Angeles house was >>> originally assessed based on $115K purchase price. Taxes totaled around >>> $1400 per year. Ten years later the house was "valued" at $505K. After 20 >>> years, my taxes were only $1800. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I couldn't have >>> kept it if there were reassessed values every few years. >>> >>> Now I live in Riverside county. This small house (and property) was >>> only $145K and my total taxes are $2300/year. That includes about $800 of >>> nickel and dime BS added for mosquito control (3" rain annually), grade >>> schools, flood control (still only 3" rain annually), high schools, roads, >>> colleges, library, and vaguely named items that I don't understand. >>> >>> On a balancing side, our car registration here is based on value. If I >>> remember correctly, NJ was three levels and mine was $15 per year back >>> then. NY registration was based on the weight of the vehicle. >>> >>> I'm glad I left Bergen county back in '72! >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 16, 2016 3:46 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens >>> >>> The building is assessed at $60K the land is not part on the NJ property >>> tax deal ... when I bought my house in 1994, taxes were $2.4k the system >>> that funds the school system makes sure that my taxes will ALWAYS go up!!! >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is that the market or assessed value? Do you mean $600,000? >>> Because $8,000.00 is over 10%of the value of your house. My god >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2016 5:18 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> My taxes are based on the fact that my house is worth $60K ... I am >>> afraid of the day they reassess my taxes!!! My co-worker had to sell his >>> house and find a house in a smaller tax zone after he went up to $14K ... >>> don't forget NJ has close to 600 school districts with various staff and >>> what not making over $100K ... the problem started way before the current >>> Governor!!! >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Your property taxes are *only* $8K per year? You'd have to live in a >>> house assessed at $800K to pay that much here. >>> >>> You don't have to convince me that Christie's term as governor there has >>> been disastrous, or that he's a liberal in sheep's clothing. He was the one >>> person who, if named as VP, I'd have likely just left the box for POTUS >>> blank on election day. I really can't stand him. Such a blowhard. >>> >>> I remember in one of the debates (before his horrible poll results >>> knocked him down to the lower tier debate), Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump >>> were touting their records and accomplishments in business (something few >>> Americans knew about either of them). Christie blustered into the >>> conversation, scolding them both with, "for the 55-year-old construction >>> worker out in that audience tonight who doesn't have a job, who can't fund >>> his child's education — I gotta tell you the truth — they could care less >>> about your careers." Then he proceeded to spend more time than anyone on >>> the stage touting his cherry-picked record in NJ over and over again - as >>> if that somehow helps a 55-year old construction worker. >>> >>> He is seriously the most loudmouthed, obnoxious - and of course >>> fat-assed - politician I've ever seen. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-4, brine wrote: >>> >>> Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and >>> minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school >>> (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the >>> government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the >>> self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the >>> damage they've done for decades is so apparent. >>> >>> I live in NJ and we have "charter schools" and "Abbot districts" which >>> are in poor sections and they get much more money to teach and it proves >>> that throwing money at the problem isn't the answer ... Johnny still can't >>> read!!! Governor Christie has pissed off a lot of folk with his concept of >>> "fair funding" for school districts ... same money per student in all >>> districts!!! As a person who never had a child and went to Catholic Schools >>> until the 9th grade, I had a better education because of my parents; I am >>> tired of my property taxes being sent to Trenton and not coming back to my >>> town, but going to "poor districts"!!! 75% of my property taxes go to the >>> school system, I am in a town that is fairly affordable, my property taxes >>> are only $8K a year ... NJ has put in the lottery, gambling and raised the >>> sales tax to give us property tax relief and every year my taxes go up ... >>> something ain't right!!! >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:04 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall >>> <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> >>> on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see >>> if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing >>> and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. >>> ---- >>> >>> Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and >>> minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school >>> (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the >>> government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the >>> self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the >>> damage they've done for decades is so apparent. >>> >>> I live in a conservative state where poor and working class kids living >>> in horrible public school districts can obtain a voucher and attend the >>> private school of their choice. The program grows every year and currently >>> has over 32K kids taking advantage of this opportunity. I expect doing so >>> will pay off nicely within a few years. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:58:32 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thursday, July 14, 2016 >>> >>> *The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens *bionic misquito >>> >>> “There are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred to our city. >>> All I know is that this must stop, this divisiveness between our police and >>> our citizens.” >>> -- Dallas >>> <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says> >>> Police >>> Chief David Brown >>> <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says>, >>> in the wake of the recent shooting of five police officers and several >>> others >>> >>> Mr. Brown, most (but not all) of the causes behind the divisiveness are >>> due to decisions made by individuals well above your pay grade. >>> >>> I offer a few simple actions that can be taken immediately in both >>> Washington DC and in every state capital around the country – these actions >>> will have immediate beneficial effect toward ending the “divisiveness >>> between our police and our citizens.” >>> >>> 1) Eliminate all laws regarding victimless crimes – including, and >>> especially, drug laws >>> 2) Eliminate minimum wage laws >>> 3) End civil asset forfeiture >>> >>> As soon as these are ended, several benefits will be immediately >>> realized: the number of negative interactions between police and citizens >>> will be overwhelmingly reduced; more fathers will be free of prison, >>> available to tend to their families; low-skilled and unskilled individuals >>> can work legally; police will have far less incentive to stop and search >>> the citizens. >>> >>> I could write more – end the subsidies for fatherless families and end >>> public education, for example. However these are much more complex. The >>> above items can be ended tomorrow without concern. >>> >>> Of course, that we live in a society where it is legal for government >>> employees to commit crimes >>> <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/jack-perry/spare-maudlin-theatrics-please/> >>> contributes to this divisiveness. It is also true that residents of >>> high-crime neighborhoods can and should take matters into their own >>> hands >>> <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/walter-e-williams/challenge-black-people/> >>> . >>> >>> But if we don’t want to continue on this certain slide toward ever-more >>> divisiveness, enacting the above-listed items will go a long way. Police >>> and citizens are fighting an uphill and losing battle as long as measures >>> such as the above remain in place. >>> >>> Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall >>> <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> >>> on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see >>> if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing >>> and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. >>> >>> Sadly, I know the answer already. >>> >>> >>> >>> http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.rs/2016/07/the-divisiveness-between-our-police-and.html >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>> * It's active and moderated. 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