Good Morning Brine! I "Get It" with the heat; and no doubt it's something that one must grow accustomed to. Having said that, I still believe that during the summer, it probably gets hotter in Newark than it does here in Tampa.....(I may be exaggerating as far north as New York/New Jersey is) but I know that the Carolinas got hotter in the summer than it did down here in Tampa. There's two distinctions; in Florida, we have a lot more humidity; so when it's hot, it may seem hotter and when it's 50° F it feels like it's 20°!
The other thing, is that in Florida, we have four seasons: "Football Season"; "Baseball Season"; we got a little Hockey; and NASCAR Season! On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > I have no desire to move south, I am happy being close to NYC and Philly. > I have a bunch of Family that now live in Florida, I hate the heat ... I do > know that if I ever retire, I will have to leave NJ .. but that's a while > away!!! > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:29 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Go south young man >> >> On Jul 16, 2016 7:04 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You are correct ...based on my structure being worth $60K is how I pay >>> my property taxes ... NJ is totally twisted as far as property tax goes >>> ...there has been a push to reassess property, especially in my county to >>> get more money out of us!!! >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:39 PM, 'Mustang' via PoliticalForum < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Brine, >>>> >>>> Am I reading this correctly? Your taxes are based on your $60K house >>>> and your actual land property isn't assessed? >>>> >>>> In CA, property is only reassessed when there are changes - up for an >>>> additional room (permits tell the tale) or down when property values >>>> (requested reassessment) take a dive. My former Los Angeles house was >>>> originally assessed based on $115K purchase price. Taxes totaled around >>>> $1400 per year. Ten years later the house was "valued" at $505K. After 20 >>>> years, my taxes were only $1800. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I couldn't have >>>> kept it if there were reassessed values every few years. >>>> >>>> Now I live in Riverside county. This small house (and property) was >>>> only $145K and my total taxes are $2300/year. That includes about $800 of >>>> nickel and dime BS added for mosquito control (3" rain annually), grade >>>> schools, flood control (still only 3" rain annually), high schools, roads, >>>> colleges, library, and vaguely named items that I don't understand. >>>> >>>> On a balancing side, our car registration here is based on value. If I >>>> remember correctly, NJ was three levels and mine was $15 per year back >>>> then. NY registration was based on the weight of the vehicle. >>>> >>>> I'm glad I left Bergen county back in '72! >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* "[email protected]" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 16, 2016 3:46 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens >>>> >>>> The building is assessed at $60K the land is not part on the NJ >>>> property tax deal ... when I bought my house in 1994, taxes were $2.4k the >>>> system that funds the school system makes sure that my taxes will ALWAYS go >>>> up!!! >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, geoffrey theist <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is that the market or assessed value? Do you mean $600,000? >>>> Because $8,000.00 is over 10%of the value of your house. My god >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2016 5:18 PM, "Brian Bednarek" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My taxes are based on the fact that my house is worth $60K ... I am >>>> afraid of the day they reassess my taxes!!! My co-worker had to sell his >>>> house and find a house in a smaller tax zone after he went up to $14K ... >>>> don't forget NJ has close to 600 school districts with various staff and >>>> what not making over $100K ... the problem started way before the current >>>> Governor!!! >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Your property taxes are *only* $8K per year? You'd have to live in a >>>> house assessed at $800K to pay that much here. >>>> >>>> You don't have to convince me that Christie's term as governor there >>>> has been disastrous, or that he's a liberal in sheep's clothing. He was the >>>> one person who, if named as VP, I'd have likely just left the box for POTUS >>>> blank on election day. I really can't stand him. Such a blowhard. >>>> >>>> I remember in one of the debates (before his horrible poll results >>>> knocked him down to the lower tier debate), Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump >>>> were touting their records and accomplishments in business (something few >>>> Americans knew about either of them). Christie blustered into the >>>> conversation, scolding them both with, "for the 55-year-old construction >>>> worker out in that audience tonight who doesn't have a job, who can't fund >>>> his child's education — I gotta tell you the truth — they could care less >>>> about your careers." Then he proceeded to spend more time than anyone on >>>> the stage touting his cherry-picked record in NJ over and over again - as >>>> if that somehow helps a 55-year old construction worker. >>>> >>>> He is seriously the most loudmouthed, obnoxious - and of course >>>> fat-assed - politician I've ever seen. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 1:18:40 PM UTC-4, brine wrote: >>>> >>>> Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and >>>> minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school >>>> (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the >>>> government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the >>>> self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the >>>> damage they've done for decades is so apparent. >>>> >>>> I live in NJ and we have "charter schools" and "Abbot districts" which >>>> are in poor sections and they get much more money to teach and it proves >>>> that throwing money at the problem isn't the answer ... Johnny still can't >>>> read!!! Governor Christie has pissed off a lot of folk with his concept of >>>> "fair funding" for school districts ... same money per student in all >>>> districts!!! As a person who never had a child and went to Catholic Schools >>>> until the 9th grade, I had a better education because of my parents; I am >>>> tired of my property taxes being sent to Trenton and not coming back to my >>>> town, but going to "poor districts"!!! 75% of my property taxes go to the >>>> school system, I am in a town that is fairly affordable, my property taxes >>>> are only $8K a year ... NJ has put in the lottery, gambling and raised the >>>> sales tax to give us property tax relief and every year my taxes go up ... >>>> something ain't right!!! >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:04 AM, 'Perplexed' via PoliticalForum < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall >>>> <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> >>>> on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see >>>> if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing >>>> and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Obama is a democrat, and democrats have opposed giving the poor and >>>> minorities in America the choice to send their children to a decent school >>>> (instead of the violent, failing one they are forced to attend by the >>>> government). It's despicable that democrats continue supporting the >>>> self-serving teachers' unions in this country when the evidence of the >>>> damage they've done for decades is so apparent. >>>> >>>> I live in a conservative state where poor and working class kids living >>>> in horrible public school districts can obtain a voucher and attend the >>>> private school of their choice. The program grows every year and currently >>>> has over 32K kids taking advantage of this opportunity. I expect doing so >>>> will pay off nicely within a few years. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 7:58:32 AM UTC-4, MJ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thursday, July 14, 2016 >>>> >>>> *The Divisiveness Between Our Police and Our Citizens *bionic misquito >>>> >>>> “There are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred to our city. >>>> All I know is that this must stop, this divisiveness between our police and >>>> our citizens.” >>>> -- Dallas >>>> <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says> >>>> Police >>>> Chief David Brown >>>> <http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/08/485220431/were-hurting-dallas-police-chief-david-brown-says>, >>>> in the wake of the recent shooting of five police officers and several >>>> others >>>> >>>> Mr. Brown, most (but not all) of the causes behind the divisiveness are >>>> due to decisions made by individuals well above your pay grade. >>>> >>>> I offer a few simple actions that can be taken immediately in both >>>> Washington DC and in every state capital around the country – these actions >>>> will have immediate beneficial effect toward ending the “divisiveness >>>> between our police and our citizens.” >>>> >>>> 1) Eliminate all laws regarding victimless crimes – including, and >>>> especially, drug laws >>>> 2) Eliminate minimum wage laws >>>> 3) End civil asset forfeiture >>>> >>>> As soon as these are ended, several benefits will be immediately >>>> realized: the number of negative interactions between police and citizens >>>> will be overwhelmingly reduced; more fathers will be free of prison, >>>> available to tend to their families; low-skilled and unskilled individuals >>>> can work legally; police will have far less incentive to stop and search >>>> the citizens. >>>> >>>> I could write more – end the subsidies for fatherless families and end >>>> public education, for example. However these are much more complex. The >>>> above items can be ended tomorrow without concern. >>>> >>>> Of course, that we live in a society where it is legal for government >>>> employees to commit crimes >>>> <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/jack-perry/spare-maudlin-theatrics-please/> >>>> contributes to this divisiveness. It is also true that residents of >>>> high-crime neighborhoods can and should take matters into their own >>>> hands >>>> <https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/walter-e-williams/challenge-black-people/> >>>> . >>>> >>>> But if we don’t want to continue on this certain slide toward ever-more >>>> divisiveness, enacting the above-listed items will go a long way. Police >>>> and citizens are fighting an uphill and losing battle as long as measures >>>> such as the above remain in place. >>>> >>>> Tonight (July 14) Obama will hold a town hall >>>> <http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/17026488/president-obama-hold-race-relations-town-hall-espn-abc-thursday> >>>> on the topic of race relations, justice, policing and equality. Let’s see >>>> if he is truly interested in improving race relations, justice, policing >>>> and equality or if he is interested in doubling-down on the status quo. >>>> >>>> Sadly, I know the answer already. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://bionicmosquito.blogspot.rs/2016/07/the-divisiveness-between-our-police-and.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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