jgg, Please show me where and how it is DEMANDED of 6th graders they use same sex couples as ROLE MODELS.
On Nov 18, 11:17 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the article > > >>> "We don't want to isolate children every day in their own classroom, or > >>> make them feel they're different," said Principal Michaela Martin. > > That is exactly what they are doing by requiring kids to go elsewhere > to recite the pledge... The simplest solution is to have the kids > say it in the classroom with those kids who don't... It would be a > lesson in being tolerant of another's opinion in the Public > Square... > > >>> Isn't it simply the adults scoring political points for one side or the > >>> other by using the kids and this pledge? > > Ah yes, the "kids are too dumb to understanding" straw man... As this > question applies to six graders also in this case, will you say the > same about a 12 year old??? FYI there are kids as young as 5 or 6 to > whom understanding of "God" or "Pledge" IS grasped... Do not these > kids have the right to say the Pledge??? Or is it the agenda of > adults with a particular POV who wish to impose the habit of > EXCLUDING GOD from the Public Square??? > > As to the purpose of the Pledge -- to instill a sense of duty owed to > one's country and community... And that IS a valid educational > goal... As valid as the demand that families of same sex couples be > used as role models... The real issue here is WHOSE agenda is > incorporated into the curriculum, the nutscases of the Left does not > GOD or patriotism in the agenda on the whole... And that IS A > PROBLEM... > > On Nov 18, 11:26 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jgg, > > > Maybe the question should be why does it matter to any rational person > > WHERE the pledge is said? > > Has anyone questioned at what age a kid is old enough to understand > > the significance of what the pledge means? Ask a 2rd grader to define > > the word "pledge" at certain ages is not the "pledge" simply like a > > "song" or "poem" they have memorized w/o understanding the meaning or > > significance? What is the real point here? Isn't it simply the adults > > scoring political points for one side or the other by using the kids > > and this pledge? > > > On Nov 18, 8:31 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That Hollywood is the question in this matter... Do not the students > > > who wish to say the Pledge have the right to do it in their > > > classroom? > > > > On Nov 17, 6:36 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jjg, > > > > > Beats the fuck out of me. > > > > > On Nov 17, 3:23 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So why make the kids who want to say it go to the gym... > > > > > > On Nov 17, 3:52 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > > This is all really simple. Kid wants to say it fine, kid dosen't > > > > > > want > > > > > > to say it, fine. Someone is afraid a kid might be criticized for > > > > > > either saying it or not saying it, toogh shit. that's likfe. > > > > > > You DO know that the phrase "under God" was not an original part of > > > > > > the pledge and was adding during the 1950"s "Oh my God the commie's > > > > > > are going to get us" phase, right? > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 9:00 am, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is a current Separation where Secularist are seeking to > > > > > > > enforce > > > > > > > their ban Religion from the Public Square... The question is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > IF but when, where, and who... A side note, isn't having the > > > > > > > kids > > > > > > > who do not wish to say "under God" stay in the classrooms while > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > rest of the students go to the gym "isolating them"??? > > > > > > > >http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20081114/NEWS/81114027 > > > > > > > > >>> Unlike other Pledge controversies, this one centers on how > > > > > > > >>> and where schoolchildren say it, not whether they should be > > > > > > > >>> allowed to. > > > > > > > > In 1943, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that schoolchildren can opt > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > of reciting the pledge for religious reasons. > > > > > > > > Sixty-one years later, the court said a California father couldn't > > > > > > > challenge the Pledge of Allegiance, reversing a lower-court > > > > > > > decision > > > > > > > saying teacher-led Pledge recitals in public schools were > > > > > > > unconstitutional. That case involved an atheist who didn't want > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > third-grader to have to listen to the phrase "under God." > > > > > > > > But it didn't rule on the constitutionality of compulsory > > > > > > > recitation. > > > > > > > > The brouhaha in the Vermont school began in September, when > > > > > > > parent Ted > > > > > > > Tedesco began circulating petitions calling for its return as a > > > > > > > daily > > > > > > > practice in the 19th-century schoolhouse, which has 55 children in > > > > > > > grades kindergarten through six. > > > > > > > > School officials agreed to resume the pledge as a daily exercise, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > not in the classroom. > > > > > > > > "We don't want to isolate children every day in their own > > > > > > > classroom, > > > > > > > or make them feel they're different," said Principal Michaela > > > > > > > Martin. > > > > > > > > Instead, starting last week, a sixth grade student was assigned > > > > > > > to go > > > > > > > around to the four classrooms before classes started, gathering up > > > > > > > anyone who wanted to say it and then walking them up creaky wooden > > > > > > > steps to a second-floor gymnasium, where he led them in the > > > > > > > pledge. > > > > > > > > About half the students chose to participate, according to > > > > > > > Martin.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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