The Israelis actually have something better to do- the Palestinians do not. You might remember what happened to Inidan Nations in North America as the result of better weapons.
On Jan 17, 8:34�am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > If you check the map of Palestine, and Gaza, it would be useful if you > remember that the country is smaller than most North American > counties, and holds 1.4 million residents. Of course they are aiming > at civilian targets.... it would be hard to miss them. Having said > that, �the Israelis are their own worst enemies in this situation, The > destruction of Gaza and all the people in it is the most likely result > if they persist with the bombs, etc. It is the Israelis who seem to > have a surplus of armaments for this purpose. �Just who is likely to > profit from this war? > > On Jan 17, 3:16�am, "liberal mike532 �!" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > can you dispute an of the points i have made with facts? > > > On Jan 16, 3:49�pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That is just NOT true, It is very unlike you. > > > > That's kinda funny, actually. I think this is very much like Mike, who > > > will exaggerate, embellish or fabricate whatever is required to make > > > his point. > > > > On Jan 16, 1:45�pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That is just NOT true, It is very unlike you. > > > > > The phosphorous is allowed as an obscurant. There has been no proof of > > > > TARGETING civilians. If the UN (my ex boss) does not want its camps > > > > hit then they need to keep them free of combatants (it is one of their > > > > responsibilities). > > > > > It is completely legal to target combatants regardless of where they > > > > set up camp. This includes day care centers and schools and hospitals > > > > and nursing homes. > > > > > On 1/16/09, liberal mike532 �! <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > the Jews have been using white phoperous on civilians which is a war > > > > > crime and have been targeting civilians not to mention a UN refuge > > > > > camp . > > > > > > On Jan 16, 11:36 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > No, Mike, they are not. They have not used a single banned weapon or > > > > > > tactic. > > > > > > > They have not targeted a single location that did not have > > > > > > combatants. > > > > > > > There is no proof to the contrary. This can NOT be said for Hamas or > > > > > > the Gazan people. > > > > > > > The fact that women and children are in the locations where the > > > > > > Palestinian combatants set up shop speaks to the value they place on > > > > > > their own people. It also shows the non-combatants basic > > > > > > intelligence > > > > > > for staying with their women and children (or actually bringing them > > > > > > to a site) when offensive or defensive posts are placed in their > > > > > > midst. > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 9:54 am, "liberal mike532 �!" <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > why would i care what hamas's Ideology is �? > > > > > > > �it is the Jew's who are committing war crimes ! > > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 9:59 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Ideological Era that anyone who oppose Western Imperialism > > > > > > > > had to > > > > > > > > be better is over... �Even your Italian brethren sees the error > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > this logic now... �I will suggest that the Left in this Country > > > > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > > crossed the line in uncivil and hateful speech over and over > > > > > > > > the last > > > > > > > > 8 years... � In the end, their Ideology and Urban Myth history > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > also be rejected... > > > > > > > > >http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/01/italian-parliamentarians-ra... > > > > > > > > > >>> This is an episode of the attack agains the western world, > > > > > > > > >>> and Iran has a lot to do with it. > > > > > > > > > The change of attitude is great: the dictatorial religious > > > > > > > > nature of > > > > > > > > Hamas and the democratic, civilized nature of Israel are seen > > > > > > > > face to > > > > > > > > face for what they are at least by the European elite at large, > > > > > > > > dead > > > > > > > > and wounded notwithstanding, and there rises an identification > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Israel against a regime that uses human shields and promises > > > > > > > > slaughters of Jews in its charter. > > > > > > > > > What happens today, at least in Italy, is the defeat and fall > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > leftist ideologies: ideology has been the fig leaf that has > > > > > > > > allowed to > > > > > > > > justify all the most violent crimes and most disgusting verbal > > > > > > > > attacks. If Arafat launched the terrorist Intifada, if he > > > > > > > > promoted the > > > > > > > > martyrdom of children in public speeches, the ideologists were > > > > > > > > ready > > > > > > > > to justify him with the issues of occupation, the Palestinian > > > > > > > > misery > > > > > > > > and loss of any hope. Not the same with Hamas. History, in > > > > > > > > Italy, has > > > > > > > > brought to a profound crisis the ideology of revolution and the > > > > > > > > justification of any cruel attack against a pretended unjust > > > > > > > > imperialist order. That time is in good part over, nobody will > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > Hamas as the resolution of the problem and not as the problem > > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > I also think that the word "peace" has lost that healing > > > > > > > > meaning that > > > > > > > > it had until yesterday. The new non-ideological point of view > > > > > > > > sees > > > > > > > > that there is no peace when one of the contenders doesn't want > > > > > > > > it, and > > > > > > > > that even if the world in the short run asks for a truce, in > > > > > > > > the long > > > > > > > > run requests a defeat of Hamas. > > > > > > > > > Well, yesterday night many people, Ministers and Members of > > > > > > > > Parliament, composed a very new, interesting puzzle of > > > > > > > > opinions. I > > > > > > > > think that when you are not overwhelmed by exotic > > > > > > > > thirdworldism, the > > > > > > > > images of children educated as hate machines, the speeches of > > > > > > > > jihad > > > > > > > > leaders, from Ahmadinejad to Nasrallah, to Hanje, that deny the > > > > > > > > holocaust and promise death to Jewish and Christians too, have > > > > > > > > on us a > > > > > > > > result of great disgust. Westerners, thanks God, can still be > > > > > > > > disgusted by an uncivilized level of political speech.- Hide > > > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > Mark M. Kahle > > > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me- > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
