KIT,

You are, of course, absolutely correct in this case.

On Jul 13, 10:50 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> As much as I hate to admit it, Holly is correct on this one.  The list is
> endless.....We could start by the thousands of U.N. Resolutions which both
> Israel and the United States have ignored; (Resolution 242 and 343 being the
> most glaring examples!!);  and Mark loves to bring up those little U.N.
> ditties from the early to mid 1980s centering around Nicaragua....About ten
> years ago, we pretty much told the U.N. to stick it when it came to the
> World Court and the potential prosecution of American servicemen, (I forget
> the actual resolution number)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Such as?
>
> > On Jul 12, 10:28 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > chiro,
>
> > > Oh please, we happily ignore any U.N. resolution we find inconvient.
>
> > > On Jul 12, 9:25 am, chirpinginnc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > The Iraq war. There was no resolution to use force as is REQUIRED.
> > > > --------------------------
> > > > Wrong.  Why do people continue to repeat this lie years later when
> > > > they've been provided with the resolution again and again?  Do they
> > > > think that if they say it often enough it will become true?
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 4:14 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > The Iraq war. There was no resolution to use force as is REQUIRED.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM, dick thompson <
> > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Examples??  And don't try to pull Kyoto because that was never
> > approved by
> > > > > > the Senate and the last Geneva Accord was not approved either.
>
> > > > > > THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote:
>
> > > > > > Bush did not implement treaties he broke them without Congressional
> > > > > > approval.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > How is this like what Bush did.  Bush did not implement a treaty
> > without
> > > > > > the approval of the Senate first.  That is what Obama is trying to
> > do.
> > > > > > Suppose he implements it and the Senate votes it down.  Then what
> > happens.
>
> > > > > > Frederick The Moderate wrote:
>
> > > > > > It seems the Dems are now doing exactly what Bush did - except it's
> > > > > > the GOP who's compaining this time. Now if Obama starts telling us
> > how
> > > > > > "We absolutely must do this right away or they will blow us all up
> > > > > > with WMDs!", he will have completed his journey to the Dark Side of
> > > > > > the Force.
>
> > > > > > I don't like the smell of it but will wait to see if they actually
> > try
> > > > > > it, before getting to rattled...
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 9:14 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >  Sounds right to me.  I don't see where the president can just make
> > the
> > > > > > treaty without the consent of the US Senate.  If I remember right
> > it
> > > > > > takes both of them to approve the treaties.  It is not really a
> > done
> > > > > > deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it.
> > > > > > Guess they forgot that one.  Of course they also tried to forget
> > that
> > > > > > when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US
> > to
> > > > > > implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified.  Looks like
> > another
> > > > > > one coming along.
>
> > > > > >  *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's
> > Treaty-Making
> > > > > > Powers:  * Here's the relevant section<
> >http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>
> > <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am..
> > .>:
>
> > > > > >      He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the
> > > > > >     Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators
> > > > > >     present concur;
>
> > > > > >  The Obama administration is finding that limitation inconvenient<
> >http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>
> > <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat..
> > .>,
> > > > > > and so they are thinking of "temporarily bypassing"<
> >http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...>
> > <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...>
> > > > > > the Senate.   Not on any important matter, just a little agreement
> > with
> > > > > > the Russians on limiting nuclear arms.
>
> > > > > >  I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find
> > any
> > > > > > provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or
> > otherwise,
> > > > > > that limit on his treaty-making powers.
>
> > > > > >  Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one
> > little bit.
> > > > > > - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009   [link]<
> >http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578<http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578>>
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