The Iraq war. There was no resolution to use force as is REQUIRED. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM, dick thompson <[email protected]>wrote:
> Examples?? And don't try to pull Kyoto because that was never approved by > the Senate and the last Geneva Accord was not approved either. > > THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: > > Bush did not implement treaties he broke them without Congressional > approval. > > On Jul 6, 11:55 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How is this like what Bush did. Bush did not implement a treaty without > the approval of the Senate first. That is what Obama is trying to do. > Suppose he implements it and the Senate votes it down. Then what happens. > > > > Frederick The Moderate wrote: > > > It seems the Dems are now doing exactly what Bush did - except it's > the GOP who's compaining this time. Now if Obama starts telling us how > "We absolutely must do this right away or they will blow us all up > with WMDs!", he will have completed his journey to the Dark Side of > the Force. > > > I don't like the smell of it but will wait to see if they actually try > it, before getting to rattled... > > > On Jul 6, 9:14 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sounds right to me. I don't see where the president can just make the > treaty without the consent of the US Senate. If I remember right it > takes both of them to approve the treaties. It is not really a done > deal if the president signs it unless the senate also approves it. > Guess they forgot that one. Of course they also tried to forget that > when it came to Kyoto for a while as the Dems tried to force the US to > implement a treaty that the Senate never ratified. Looks like another > one coming along. > > > *The Constitution Imposes Severe Limits On A President's Treaty-Making > Powers: * Here's the relevant > section<http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...> > <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_Am...>: > > > He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the > Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators > present concur; > > > The Obama administration is finding that limitation > inconvenient<http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...> > <http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/05/obama-hey-lets-bypass-the-senat...>, > and so they are thinking of "temporarily > bypassing"<http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> > <http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/us-russian-arms-negot...> > the Senate. Not on any important matter, just a little agreement with > the Russians on limiting nuclear arms. > > > I looked carefully through the Constitution, and could not find any > provision that allows a president to bypass, temporarily or otherwise, > that limit on his treaty-making powers. > > > Senator Byrd --- among others --- isn't going to like this one little bit. > - 8:08 AM, 6 July 2009 > [link]<http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578> > <http://www.seanet.com/~jimxc/Politics/July2009_1.html#jrm7578>- Hide quoted > text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
