Bruce,
Bruce,
On Jul 12, 10:55 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> Banks actually offer accounts to illegal aliens, but do not welcome in
> violent criminals
> The analogy below fails
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** I can have an account at any bank and still choose to rob it.
Illegals choose to steal, lie & cheat there way in over other honest
immigrants coming in legally ! Analogy stands !
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>
> If I have a farm and invite "illegal" "aliens" to work on it that isn't
> immoral and the government that attempts to prevent this consensual
> nonviolent act is violating our rights
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>
> ** It may not be a violent criminal act to enter the country " illegally "
> but it is " ILLEGAL " and you as farmer Bruce are aiding and abetting said
> non-violent yet " Illegal " crime. Comprehension of words and their meanings
> go a long way. LEGAL/ILLEGAL
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>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Lets put it at your level of comprehension LAD!
> > People all know there is money in the banks to be had and if they rob
> > it they will be better off economically. However; banks do not invite
> > people in to rob them only to come in and conduct business legally. It
> > is the " illegal aliens" who steal, lie & cheat their way in this
> > country with their own legs & own will. Now if they come in " legally
> > " like other immigrants do than there is no problem because they did
> > not come into the country " illegally ". The problem on this thread
> > is that some are able to differentiate between " legal " and "
> > illegal " and others like you, enablers, cohorts, etc; are not able to
> > do so. There is ideology and then there is reality; reality trumps
> > ideology every time. The reality being that there are millions of "
> > illegal immigrants " who are causing unjust burdens on other citizens
> > in this country to which the rest of us have to pay for. They are in
> > affect robbing the bank and are assisted by said enablers,
> > cohorts,ie., ACLU. LaRatza, congress, sanctuary cities.....et al .
> > Everyone knows that you take care of your legal business at the bank
> > and then you get the hell out. No rational bank manager will let you
> > set up camp .
>
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>
> > On Jul 11, 11:36 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Sage2,
>
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>
> > > Please expalin where I said "only business"? Why is there such a
> > > frantic attempt to deflect any sort of responsibility for this problem
> > > from "business"? Why the attempt to talk about any one EXCEPT
> > > business? If you wish to claim I want to talk about only business what
> > > would be irrational about my claiming you wish to talk about anyone
> > > EXCEPT "business"?
>
> > > Why are not businesses that attract , hire and protect illegals also
> > > described as "maggots"? Tell you what, you include American
> > > corporations in that list of "enabling maggots" and I will agree with
> > > you. But you won't, will you?
> > > Tell me where i attempted to defend any of those organizations you
> > > mentioned, concerning the illegal alien issue.
>
> > > On Jul 11, 10:03 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Holly,
>
> > > > Your attempt was to put the problem of "enabling"
> > > > illegal immigration only @ businesses , but you failed to mention the
> > > > other enablers in government most of whom are Democrats. How about
> > > > the ACLU (American Communist Lawyers Union ), LaRatza ( I smell a
> > > > ratz ) , the sanctuary cities like San Fransisco, New Haven and all
> > > > the other maggot enablers who think that Mexican Alien Immigrants and
> > > > their likes have a right to perpetrate crimes and cheat, steal & lie
> > > > their way in over other immigrants trying to get in legally. Another
> > > > great attempt at stop & spin though LAD !
>
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>
> > > > On Jul 11, 10:24 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Sage2,
>
> > > > > You are correct of course. I assume that the companies that hire them
> > > > > must of course be listed as among the cohorts and defenders of
> > illegal
> > > > > aliens. Correct? Are you familiar with the term "enabling"?
>
> > > > > Sorry lad, I do not own a Urban Dictionary. I assume you have some
> > > > > objection to the terms "illegal alieb" and/or illegal immigration"?
> > If
> > > > > so, tough shit, you know full well what I mean.
>
> > > > > On Jul 11, 8:05 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Not only are the " illegal aliens " guilty
> > of
> > > > > > " illegal immigration " but they and their cohorts & defenders are
> > > > > > also guilty of insolence. They have no respect for the the
> > injustice
> > > > > > they perpetrate against all Americans and all the hard working
> > > > > > immigrants who come to make their new life in this country legally.
> > Of
> > > > > > course they do not acknowledge the injustice because they are
> > unable
> > > > > > to comprehend the definitions of either the words legal or illegal.
> > to
> > > > > > much reliance on the URBAN DICTIONARY. Right Holly ??
>
> > > > > > On Jul 11, 11:19 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The larger problem are those aiding and
> > abetting
> > > > > > > both businesses & the " illegals ",ie; sanctuary cities,
> > government
> > > > > > > officials, churches,ACLU, LaRatza, and all the other cronies that
> > bend
> > > > > > > over to in effect gain both cheap labor, and cheap votes. These
> > > > > > > people are stealing, cheating, and undermining those who have
> > and/or
> > > > > > > are trying to obtain citizenship legally. Those who support '
> > Illegal
> > > > > > > immigration " are to feeble minded to understand what the
> > definition
> > > > > > > of " illegal " is and have no problem in wasting our TAX DOLLARS
> > on
> > > > > > > those who break the immigration laws. For the socialist democrats
> > it
> > > > > > > works well because an uneducated mass coming over the borders is
> > > > > > > easier to control especially if you throw them in with the
> > uneducated
> > > > > > > masses in our urban cities. California is now suffering because
> > of
> > > > > > > such policies! The rest of the country will also feel the
> > affects
> > > > > > > these illegal activities have especially in a down economy like
> > this
> > > > > > > one, which Obama & company are about to destroy.
>
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>
> > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:22 am, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > bruce,
>
> > > > > > > > Sure, just so long as they do it LEGALLY.
> > > > > > > > So, you really do NOT want to solve the illegal alien problem?
> > You
> > > > > > > > WANT to allow CERTAIN people to break American immigration laws
> > with
> > > > > > > > no significant punishment or consequences? Gee, I thought you
> > lads
> > > > > > > > were all about law & order, personal responsibility and doing
> > > > > > > > something about unemployment. Guess not.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 8:45 am, bruce majors <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > People should be free to work and live where they like
> > > > > > > > > Just not to live off taxpayers
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Hollywood <
> > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > bruce,
>
> > > > > > > > > > I got an idea. Why don't we simply dry up the reason they
> > are coming
> > > > > > > > > > here illegally? They come here for jobs, to work here
> > illegally. Send
> > > > > > > > > > govt. agents, INS or whomever to raid plants and look for
> > illegal
> > > > > > > > > > workers. And, of course, deport those illegals but more
> > importantly
> > > > > > > > > > provide punsihment to the people that hire them that would
> > be
> > > > > > > > > > significant enough to stop them from ever even THINKING of
> > doing that
> > > > > > > > > > again. Throw a few plant managers and HR managers in jail,
> > fine them
> > > > > > > > > > significantly enough to put a stop to the illegal activity
> > of hiring
> > > > > > > > > > illegals. What good does it do to fime a company a few
> > bucks if they
> > > > > > > > > > are saving 10 times that amount by hiring the illegals? If
> > i commit a
> > > > > > > > > > crime that nets me a profit of $1 million dollars and I'm
> > caught and
> > > > > > > > > > the fine is $100,000.00 with no jail time why on earth
> > would I NOT
> > > > > > > > > > commit that crime again, first chance I got?
> > > > > > > > > > Oh yeah, and forbid any company caught hiring illegals from
> > even
> > > > > > > > > > bidding on any city, county, state or federal govt.
> > contracts for at
> > > > > > > > > > least on year or so. No, maybe it would be tough to do that
> > to every
> > > > > > > > > > homeowner that hires and illegal to cut his grass or clean
> > his pool
> > > > > > > > > > but it would have an impact on large agricultural,
> > manufacturers, meat
> > > > > > > > > > & poultry processors, etc. etc. Enough out of work American
> > citizens
> > > > > > > > > > to fill those jobs.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 7:53 am, bruce majors <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Jeff Schwilk <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > *Date:* 7/10/2009 10:39:51 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* LA Times: The Cost of Illegal Aliens
>
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