Obama IMMEDIATELY blocked drilling off the coast of the US for oil
upon getting into office. He is a bag of hot air and has NO SOLUTIONS
for the energy problems the Dems have created over the last four
decades.

On Jul 12, 2:25 pm, Frederick The Moderate
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Well Keith, that's your opinion. Funny that the GOP ran ads non-stop
> against clean coal during the campaign. I guess they were using
> reverse psychology? And you prove the point again when you tal about
> Dems' wanting to "block the exploration and drilling for oil". Doesn't
> sound like trying to find alternate energy sources to me - unless you
> consider oil an alternate energy source.
>
> To Richard:
> I would re-position the issue, marketing-wise. Stop selling it to
> those chanting "Drill Baby Drill" as an ecological issue. It's
> obvious, they don't want to even admit that we have any effect on the
> planet. So fine. Market it to them as a National Security Issue.
> Change "Drill baby drill!" to "Stop Funding Muslim Terrorists!". Even
> your most redneck, car-on -the-lawn type would be open to that one.
>
> The overall goal would be the same but as long as rightwingnuts can
> say it's a liberal issue, they'd rather keep sending money to OPEC
> than admit anything Obama is behind, could have a positive, long-term
> outcome.
>
> On Jul 12, 8:57 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Fred,
>
> > How ridiculous!  If there was a partisan rift, it was caused by those far
> > left socialists that belong to the Democrat Party!  There was nothing
> > partisan about this issue, until such time as the socialists did everything
> > that they could do, to  The Democrats have blocked any type of comprehensive
> > energy plan that encompasses development of Hydrogen, clean coal, nuclear
> > power, and once again, the expanded drilling for more hydrocarbons!  This is
> > flat out Un-American, and the purpose is sinister!  First, the Democrats
> > attempted to make the former Presidential Administration look bad when the
> > cost of oil skyrocketed last year.  Second, the socialists know that high
> > energy costs are beneficial to their cause, (e.g.; tax breaks, subsidized
> > heating, subsidized fuel, and the "class warfare card" that socialists play
> > so well!!)
>
> > It is flat out ignorant and uninformed to blame the failure of our Congress
> > to come up with and implement a comprehensive energy plan!  The partisanship
> > and the Anti-American position can all be laid at the feet of the Democrat
> > Party!  The Republicans have come up with and wanted to implement a
> > comprehensive energy plan!!
>
> > There is no getting around this fact!!  Lay blame, where blame lies Fred!!
>
> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Frederick The Moderate <
>
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm for just about anything at this point. But the GOP / Conservatives
> > > seem to have turned this into a "right v. left" issue instead of a
> > > "Let's not be stupid and help ourselves" issue. Look at any time
> > > solar, wind or other power sources are so much as mentioned in a post
> > > and you will see that loyal follower of Rush, OhioMark commenting on
> > > what a waste of time it is to even try something new. To him and those
> > > like him, if it's not "Drill Baby Drill!", it's a piece of "liberal
> > > propaganda".
> > > As i've said in many posts, with me it's not so much about the planet
> > > as just being able to tell OPEC to piss off. You would think
> > > Conservatives could get behind that one. Maybe now that the Oil Man is
> > > out of office, this will transition into something less about petty
> > > party squabbles and more about our country (and our planet, if one
> > > believes that side of the issue). Even if we do happen to make some
> > > progress on it, under a non-Repuiblican president.
>
> > > On Jul 11, 5:05 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >  > Call it liberal, call it conservative or just call it crazy.  Here is
> > > > what I think needs to be done.
>
> > > > We are fixated on fossil fuels.  Whether fossil fuels cause global
> > > > warming (personally I think the entire issue is based on silly
> > > > science) nobody can argue that it does damage to the ecology.  More
> > > > importantly, fossil fuels are not renewable in any reasonable period
> > > > of time and the reserves will run out some day.  In the short-term,
> > > > our dependence on fossil fuels creates a national security problem and
> > > > we actually funnel money to the middle east, thus financing much of
> > > > the terrorist activity we so fear.  However, we have federal
> > > > legislation that limits our ability in the short-term to mitigate our
> > > > increasing foreign dependence and we have a tax system that makes it
> > > > unprofitable for the oil companies to explore alternative and
> > > > renewable energy sources at the pace that is needed.
>
> > > > Therefore, I propose that a NASA-like program, focused on development
> > > > and deployment of alternative and renewable energy sources be
> > > > established.  The primary source of funding would come from the
> > > > elimination of redundant and unnecessary existing government
> > > > programs.  The life of the agency would be capped at ten years.  The
> > > > purpose would be to advance those technologies that the free-market
> > > > cannot justify pursuing at this time.  The added scientific research
> > > > might push the oil companies to re-evaluate their development models.
> > > > However, if that is not enough, increasing the taxes on the
> > > > distribution networks may provide added boost.  However, this must be
> > > > offset by reduced taxes on the production of current oil reserves as
> > > > well as the simplifying of rules related to refining of oil products
> > > > and drilling.  If we do all of these things, we will create a short-
> > > > term cushion against foreign dependence while simultaneously
> > > > eliminating in the long-term, a dependence that cannot continue for
> > > > many reasons.- Hide quoted text -
>
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