I suspect that if hemp could replace oil and other commodities as easily and efficiently as you assert, someone like T. Boone Pickins would have capitalized on it long ago. Like you say, there would be a fortune in it.
On Jul 13, 12:23 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Richard, > > We probably have more in common that you think. I think you just let > the label "liberal" sometimes influence your thinking and opinions. I > have been saying these same things for years. > > All you have to do is take the advice an old retired big city police > detective once gave me years ago. If you ever want to know WHY a thing > has been done or, more importantly, WHO is behind that thing just > FOLLOW THE MONEY. There are always two reasons for a thing being done. > There is the public reason given, and then there is the REAL reason. > Ask yourself, why is it illegal in the U.S. to grow one of the most > useful plants known to man, and has been since the 1930's? PUBLIC > REASON: It is a relative to the marijuana plant and might be mistaken > for it. > REAL REASON: FOLLOW THE MONEY. It can and would, in time, replace or > at the very least reduce the need and useage of oil in the country. > Who do you think could possibly object to that? Maybe Mobil/Exxon and > a bunch of other people. > Now, who would not like to use the hemp plant fiber to replace wood? > Consider that Industrail Grade Hemp is basically a weed and will grow > pretty much anywhere in the CONUS. As a weed it needs very little > fertilizers to grow. Who makes fertilizers and what is an important > component in making fertilizers? As a weed basically it also needs > very little pesticides. Who makes a lot of pesticides? Who grows, > harvests and makes paper out of trees? What is used in immense amounts > to turn trees into paper? > > Now, ask yourself why corn was used to make ethanol. a dumb idea in > the first place. A major food crop for God's sake. > Guess which two crops use the most fertilizers, pesticides and other > chemicals? it's cotton and CORN. > > So, who is likely to be hurt, at least short term, by fully utilizing > the industrial grade hemp plant? Only heavy- weights such as all the > oil companies, all the paper companies and all the major chemical > companies in this country. You think those boys have any political > clout in this country? > > ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. > > On Jul 12, 10:21 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > You are starting to scare me, or more accurately our level of > > agreement is starting to scare me. I have a really hard time figuring > > out how our politicians can argu over such ridiculous matters as they > > are simultaneously complicit in the damaging of our national > > security. It make no sense to me. > > > On Jul 12, 8:38 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > KIT, > > > > Jesus Christ, must we go over all of this yet again? Our political > > > "leaders' of BOTH parties have been complete, self-serving morons > > > concerning energy policy and the approach to alternative fuels to > > > carbon based fuels for decades now. > > > > BIG hint, do you remember the OPEC oil embargo of 1973, over 35 > > > fucking years ago? What did all our illustrious leaders say? You don't > > > remember all the impassioned speeches, from BOTH party's "leaders" > > > about how "Americans will never be held hostage by "foreign oil" ever > > > again"? How about the promises to devote as much money and "American > > > know-how" as needed to sovle this issue? No we probably can't solve > > > the problem in 3 to 5 years. What if we had began in earnest 35 > > > fucking years ago? > > > > For Christ's Sake, Henry Ford and Rudolph Deisel fully intended for > > > their engines to run on vegtable based oil or ethyl alcohol 100 years > > > ago. Henry Ford built a car out of help plant fiber and run on hemp > > > seed oil in 1941. > > > Anything, from plastics, to fertiziler, to paint to fuel for cars & > > > trucks, currently made from the fossil fuel normally called oil can be > > > made from hemp seed oil. Everything currently made from wood can be > > > made using the fiber from the hemp plant. The Constituion was printed > > > on paper made from hemp. Ever heard the expression "he was hung with a > > > good hemp rope"? We've only been aware of this for 100 years or so. > > > > And that is Just ONE little plant, the hemp plant. I could go on and > > > on and on. But I've done it many times before and some people just > > > don't want to listen. Our political leaders haven't been doing any > > > leading on this since before I was born, gutless wonders that they > > > are. No will, no guts, no imagination whatsoever. > > > > On Jul 12, 2:48 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fred, > > > > > I recall no television commercials where the GOP were opposed to clean > > > > coal > > > > technology. Just the opposite is true. I recall there being a split > > > > between Joe Biden and President Obama; Biden favoring clean coal > > > > technology, as opposed to his running mate. > > > > > There should be no partisan issues here, and yes, the Democrats made it > > > > a > > > > partisan issue. > > > > > If you think that we are going to come up with some alternative energy > > > > that > > > > will replace the combustion engine in the next three to five years, (or > > > > ten > > > > years) then you are not nearly as saavy as I thought you were. Oil is > > > > requisite for our society, and we need it! It is a matter of national > > > > security for our Nation to function, from the food that you eat, to the > > > > shrink wrap that covers your underwear that you buy at K-Mart, oil is a > > > > prerequisite. There are no air farm packages manufactured, there are no > > > > nuclear fueled automobiles, and to date, there is no hydrogen powered or > > > > water powered facilities that make tools, equipment, asphalt, or the > > > > thousands of other items that we depend upon for petroleum in this > > > > Nation. > > > > > You are turning a blind eye if you suggest that there is more than one > > > > answer here, there isn't. Our Nation needs a comprehensive energy > > > > policy > > > > and plan, of which the Republican Party has placed forth, and the > > > > socialists > > > > are fighting tooth and nail in their attempt at class warfare and their > > > > Anti-American agenda. > > > > > To suggest that we should be a part of the Kyoto Treaty, which limits > > > > our > > > > ability to produce, but doesn't limit emerging Nation-States like China, > > > > India, Thailand, Brazil, or any other third world Nation-State is > > > > Anti-American. It is laughable, and just misplaced. > > > > > I encourage you to read, study, and look for what has been proposed, and > > > > then, once you realize that you, and the rest of the Democrat > > > > constituents > > > > have been sold a bill of goods, get on the phone with your Congressman > > > > and > > > > demand that they support a comprehensive energy plan that includes the > > > > expansion for exploring and drilling for more oil, as well as a > > > > concerted > > > > attempt at developing new energy technologies, like hydrogen. > > > > > There would be no partisan debate if folks like you would educate > > > > yourself > > > > and start looking at the consequences of what the Democrat Party's plan > > > > is, > > > > and what their real agenda is..... > > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Hollywood > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > Your simply beautiful man, a piece of work. Here's your position > > > > > basically, with most of the bullshit stripped away. > > > > > "There won't be no "partisan rifts", just so long as you do things our > > > > > way and go get all uppity by having opinions that differ from ours". > > > > > Oh yeah, and the simple act of disagreeing with us makes you "social- > > > > > elitist anti-Americans". > > > > > > You remind me a lot of my first wife. Everything would have been fine > > > > > had I learned to shut the fuck up and just done everything her way. > > > > > THAT was thew ENTIRE problem. "Sniff".... I miss that bitch so much > > > > > I'm almost as miserable as when she was here.. :-) > > > > > > On Jul 12, 10:57 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Fred, > > > > > > > How ridiculous! If there was a partisan rift, it was caused by > > > > > > those far > > > > > > left socialists that belong to the Democrat Party! There was > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > partisan about this issue, until such time as the socialists did > > > > > everything > > > > > > that they could do, to block the exploration and drilling for oil > > > > > > in and > > > > > > around our Nation! The Democrats have blocked any type of > > > > > > comprehensive > > > > > > energy plan that encompasses development of Hydrogen, clean coal, > > > > > nuclear > > > > > > power, and once again, the expanded drilling for more hydrocarbons! > > > > > > This > > > > > is > > > > > > flat out Un-American, and the purpose is sinister! First, the > > > > > > Democrats > > > > > > attempted to make the former Presidential Administration look bad > > > > > > when > > > > > the > > > > > > cost of oil skyrocketed last year. Second, the socialists know > > > > > > that high > > > > > > energy costs are beneficial to their cause, (e.g.; tax breaks, > > > > > > subsidized > > > > > > heating, subsidized fuel, and the "class warfare card" that > > > > > > socialists > > > > > play > > > > > > so well!!) > > > > > > > It is flat out ignorant and uninformed to blame the failure of our > > > > > Congress > > > > > > to come up with and implement a comprehensive energy plan! The > > > > > partisanship > > > > > > and the Anti-American position can all be laid at the feet of the > > > > > Democrat > > > > > > Party! The Republicans have come up with and wanted to implement a > > > > > > comprehensive energy plan!! > > > > > > > There is no getting around this fact!! Lay blame, where blame lies > > > > > Fred!! > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Frederick The Moderate < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm for just about anything at this point. But the GOP / > > > > > > > Conservatives > > > > > > > seem to have turned this into a "right v. left" issue instead of a > > > > > > > "Let's not be stupid and help ourselves" issue. Look at any time > > > > > > > solar, wind or other power sources are so much as mentioned in a > > > > > > > post > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
